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Germany's former eastern territories Comrade 06/13/2020 (Sat) 06:09:22 No. 1910 [Reply] [Last]
Why do so many people have a boner for Germany's old eastern borders? Look at any alt-hist featuring the nation and they still own Pomerania, Silesia, Prussia (East/West) etc. Is it because of aesthetics and looking nice, does /pol/ have anything to do with it, or is it something different? Discuss.
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>>1923 Yeah, hardcore nationalists still consider it 'Elsaß-Lothringen'. No one else cares, it's a part of France.
>>2664 I don't know about the "Sovjet citizens" but the "Sovereign citizens" comparison is on-point.
>>1910 Because Poland is full of reactionaries and reactionary nationalism, to the point where we prefer the Germans.
>>2984 "Soviet citizens" are a movement of Russians who act as if the Soviet Union still exists and that they are not subject to the laws of the Russian Federation. Similarly to sovereign citizens and Reich citizens they are also attracted to absurd conspiracy theories.

Historical Documentary General Historian 03/05/2020 (Thu) 01:47:31 No. 94 [Reply] [Last]
This will be a thread for posting and sharing Documentaries about history as a whole. I was sitting around watching Step back and I realized it has been a while since I have seen any of those old BBC like documentaries about historical figures. Doesn't have to be older though. If you have any Youtube links or torrents to look up post them here. Thanks anons.
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A documentary that I watched a while back was "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised." Its about the 2002 coup on Hugo Chavez, and its a pretty interesting watch as the people making the documentary were there on the scene the days before, during and after the coup. Something that I liked was that they showed you the different class reactions to the idea of the Chavez presidency. Like obviously, we can guess, but I still hate/love seeing the porkies taking their mask off. Here a link to it: https://youtu.be/wKf1nccf3OI
>>2229 La batalla de Chile Cordillera de los sueños Botó de nácar Nostalgia de la luz All by Patricio Guzmán.
Any based and redpilled documentary on the Hungarian revolution of 1956?
DW in spanish just posted this documentary about German Rocket Scientists in Mobutu's Zaire. It's pretty interesting to see how Elon Musk could have ended if the political door he needed were closed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB26MHTC3Xs Or invidio https://invidio.us/watch?v=HB26MHTC3Xs (Those fuckers in DW spanish put 5 ads meanwhile in DW english there is only one, fuck them)
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Found out that Marx Reloaded is on Youtube, a documentary film I always wanted to watch but never could find: https://youtu.be/o1ZVv0I7DH8

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What History YTers do you like, which ones do you hate? Comrade 07/05/2020 (Sun) 11:42:08 No. 2196 [Reply] [Last]
There's already a thread about Lindybeige but I find him a bit of an insufferable right wing anticommunist fuck, granted there's plenty of that kind of thing in the YT historian community, but we can try to pick out the diamonds, relatively speaking. I'm kind of afraid to give my recommendations since I've just been going off Youtube recommendations so I'll let you go first.
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>>2201 Atun-Shei is based at longmarching all over Confederate scumtards. Hard recommend. Wouldn't call him a Br*dT*ber, but I get the impression he has definite left wing views, I'd even venture him a bernout. It's good he doesn't constantly, incessantly mention that in his every video up front though as Br*dT*bers do, as that let's the generally left wing understanding of the world to seep through in his actual explaining of real, material history as he debunks. It's absorbed subtly by the viewer, leaving the average Jim far more willing to listen, so he'd better well remain out of the Br*dT*be sphere.
I think a lot of Armchair Historians videos on historical battles and wars are pretty cool, especially since he’s one of those to give it straight about the tactical genius of the Soviet military command in WWII instead of “muh winter, muh reserves” meme I fucking hate the people behind The Great War and World War Two though, the hosts are all just reading off scripts, the real owners are EU goals and pretty strident anti-communist woke libs
Cynical historian is pretty good, although he's quite liberal. His video on the "Death of Stalin" was very good.
>>2196 I watched a few videos by this channel called "whatifalthis" and while I didn't agree with some of his conclusions he clearly researched a lot so I subscribed. Then he came out with a video about what if North Korea won the Korean war and it was complete bullshit. I recommend watching if you want to see unfiltered retardation.
>>2196 Simon Roper, very interesting man with interesting facial hair, does videos on Historical linguistics https://youtu.be/J-WjIVxyR5c

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Historian 03/26/2020 (Thu) 07:54:06 No. 1 [Reply] [Last]
Is this man the only good youtube historian? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBUGQkpk3RE
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>>1 I like how in his latest video he was clearly butthurt about clever political maneuvering by Tito at the expense of the british LMAO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D87vVWjtp_U
>>2045 sometimes right-wing idiots can still make good content. See TiK vidoes before he came out as a libertardian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc-rFzC63hU
>>1 He's fun to listen to but a British nationalist so I don't take him seriously on anything related to the UK.
>>2520 "Denying Hitler was a socialist means denying the holocaust happened"
>>312 If you are into medieval weapons and martial arts scholagladiatoria blows them all out of the water and is not a retarded right winger: https://www.youtube.com/user/scholagladiatoria

Capitalist here Comrade 07/01/2020 (Wed) 18:04:31 No. 2146 [Reply] [Last]
By marxist standards, I do not provide labor, I own capital. From what I understand, the commie concept of wage labor is "exploitation" in the sense that we take the surplus value you produce. Since this board allows non-leftists to ask questions, mine is, why do you think you have the right to the full product/end result of your labor and not just a small compensation? If I were to pay my wagecucks the full amount, or give them control over my company instead of paying them a pittance, I won't be able to stay competitive and maximize profits. In capitalist philosophy on the other hand, exploitation requires the use of force. A worker is not forced to work for me for example, they are 100% free to go find a different job or start their own company. I just wanna know your point of view, and why you think you are entitled to your surplus labor.
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>>2158 (cont.) I want to say an additional observation, which I think you wouldn't find frequently in Marxist literature. I call this the Golden Law of Socialist Economy: ~ In the condition of good environment, the lower GDP of a socialist country is, the better efficiency it will achieve ~
>>2155 >Why can't someone start a business though and go from rags to riches? Such examples are rare, but in any event even if they were more common that would not be the relevant point. An enterprising peasant in the Mughal empire could become a zamindar - whether people change the positions they occupy doesn't change whether those positions are exploitative. >The market values assets because of demand, and if you are able to fulfill this demand, you get rewarded This might be a plausible account of CEO pay - that investors pay CEOs much because they know they're so good at their jobs. (There are of course other explanations, but we're not worried about that issue right now.) However, when you buy a company's assets, you're not buying the CEO's time - you're buying the assets. This can be seen most clearly in the purchase, valuation, and payoffs of securities which don't have to be actively managed at all. (If you're a Nazi this is proof that bankers don't do "real" work but factory owners do, but if you think through the logic of the market at all you'll see that people who own shares of each sector are collecting rent on it in similar ways.)
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>>2146 >In capitalist philosophy on the other hand, exploitation requires the use of force. A worker is not forced to work for me for example, they are 100% free to go find a different job or start their own company. Man, you have got to read Marx.
>>2146 >A worker is not forced to work for me for example, they are 100% free to go find a different job or start their own company. Good job outing yourself as a high schooler. Literally no adult with a mature brain believes in that myth.

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/his/ humour thread Historian 03/15/2020 (Sun) 21:22:26 No. 194 [Reply] [Last]
Dark edition.
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anyone know sites with good history boards?
>>765 How can anyone rationally believe that when the easier answer is that you only learn European history in school?
>>855 Bunkerchan.xyz/edu It’d be good if we had more people.
>>866 >>855 I sexond this one

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Help with Marxian philosophical reading list Comrade 07/14/2020 (Tue) 12:42:51 No. 2457 [Reply] [Last]
I've been doing a bit of reading on the economic aspects of Marxism, however it occurred to me that I don't know where to start with the more philosophical aspects. I've seen people post Stalin's, "Dialectical and Historical Materialism" and I've occasionally been recommended some works by Bukharin, however I really don't know what order would be best to understand concepts such as dialectical materialism or the base and superstructure or ideology, and so on. Could one of you anons help me figure out how exactly I should educate myself on such topics?
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>>2495 >please find me books that already agree with my beliefs
>>2944 >hey I'm reading this subject and I want to know more about <heh, you're just an echo chamber kid peak idiocy
>>2495 Heidegger is more materialist than Marx
>>2949 As is Deleuze. There's also vitalism. Which is and isn't materialist depending on your flavor.
>>2950 Deleuze is just a naive realist

Historical Determinism Comrade 08/06/2020 (Thu) 09:00:46 No. 2916 [Reply] [Last]
Why some marxist use historical determinism as a pejorative and how can someone be marxist and reject determinism?
>>2916 Marxists acknowledge that contradictions are inherent to all things in themselves across all times. There is no such thing as an absolute harmony which can be disturbed or reach. Hence dialectics are anti-determinist at a fundamental zero-level.
Historical determinism is often used to mean the belief that history is outside the control of humanity and instead happens to them like the weather. Meanwhile Marx claimed that humans are capable of consciously changing their material conditions (by "revolutionary activity").

Which of these books do you recommend? Anonymous 04/04/2020 (Sat) 21:46:37 No. 767 [Reply] [Last]
And which should I skip?
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Pynchon is very fun to read
>>767 My personal favorite is 77
>>2930 It’s not a book about ideology per se, however it’s an incredible book. It’s a story about childhood’s end, fear, anger, nostalgia, with some midlife crisis stuff thrown in. It’s great
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>>786 >lolita >my gf's favorite book
>>2951 lol She just thinks Nabakov was the century's finest prose stylist.

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The question is when Anonymous 07/27/2020 (Mon) 03:39:14 No. 2874 [Reply] [Last]
The late 2010's and early 2020's upheavals were predicted 10 years ago by a relatively simple model that accounts for elite infighting, income inequality, number of 18-29 y.o. people, etc. The same analysis was retroactively applied to many civil wars and revolutions throughout history and the results were pretty consistent: wars, revolutions and upheavals follow pretty deterministic patterns. The thing that's impossible to predict, is the trigger, the casus belli. In-depth paper in [1], 2020 prediction in [2]. On the other hand the rate of profit is falling (empirically proven in [3]), which makes the contradictions accelerate: median living conditions become increasingly unbearable, inequality between the working population and the elite skyrockets, etc. (coronavirus and climate change are just accelerating even further the process). The question is not if, but when, will capitalism collapse. Two options at that point: regression, the elite fights back and wins (fascism, neo-feudalism, apocalyptic-tier world wars, pick your poison) or progression, the working class fights back and wins (socialism, which means the long term construction of post-scarcity society i.e. communism). [1]: https://escholarship.org/uc/item/6qp8x28p [2]: https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a >Quantitative historical analysis reveals that complex human societies are affected by recurrent — and predictable — waves of political instability (P. Turchin and S. A. Nefedov Secular Cycles Princeton Univ. Press; 2009). In the United States, we have stagnating or declining real wages, a growing gap between rich and poor, overproduction of young graduates with advanced degrees, and exploding public debt. These seemingly disparate social indicators are actually related to each other dynamically. They all experienced turning points during the 1970s. Historically, such developments have served as leading indicators of looming political instability >Very long 'secular cycles' interact with shorter-term processes. In the United States, 50-year instability spikes occurred around 1870, 1920 and 1970, so another could be due around 2020. We are also entering a dip in the so-called Kondratiev wave, which traces 40-60-year economic-growth cycles. This could mean that future recessions will be severe. In addition, the next decade will see a rapid growth in the number of people in their twenties, like the youth bulge that accompanied the turbulence of the 1960s and 1970s. All these cycles look set to peak in the years around 2020. [3]: https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/55894/1/MPRA_paper_55894.pdf >The downward trend of the rate of profit, its empirical confirmation, highlights the historically limited nature of capitalist production. If the rate of profit marks the vitality of the system, the logical conclusion is that it approaches further to an endpoint.
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>>2897 Well put comrade, have you read Hinterland, by Phil Neel?
>>2898 >I also am unclear why you find urban environments to be hostile. I agree with your opinion but my reasons are more mundane: vehicle traffic, noise pollution, actual pollution, lack of space for gatherings. None of these are inherent to the city-form. An advanced socialist city of the future could avoid or minimize these issues. I do not share the contempt for cities, but I admit that there is a large untapped potential to them. We could create clean, green, efficient, humane and beautiful cities - capitalism stands in the way.
>>2900 >None of these are inherent to the city-form Not that anon, but the entire history of cities is that of people being forced into them out of brute desperation in search of opportunities for sustenance, falling to ruin both as individuals and generationally all their time there, and fleeing as far from the city center as they can manage the moment they claw together enough resources to afford it. It's pretty obvious that people just really, really hate living in cities.
>>2896 Honestly, I'm against trying to predict the future, but I think it's hard not to let some of the "kill me now" nihilistic millennial humor creep into my thought process. Not least because I've been guilty of perpetuating that nonsense myself.
>>2901 >It's pretty obvious that people just really, really hate living in cities I disagree. People hate living in shitty cities.


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