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Comrade 11/21/2020 (Sat) 01:01:05 No. 13576
I believe transexuals should just be femboy's. Convenience be why we should support genital mutilation because of gender spooks.
>>13576 They are just confused. The liberal media supports lgbtq because it's a new way to advertise and sell products.
Ай хав а куоут фор иу, коомер
Transsexual is a dated term. Also, "just be a femboy" is kinda bad if you have dysphoria and hate seeing your body slowly turn hairier, seeing your face turned manlier, seeing your butt get smaller. Hence, hrt exists and lots of people take it. But hrt gives tits, which means you can't "just be a femboy" cuz you'll always just be a tranny at that point. No point pretending not to be. Even if you did "just be a femboy", with or without hrt, you'll always be perceived as a tranny. Most trannies have never gotten surgery for context, so having a dick won't change perception.
>>13578 I know this my problem is it seems to alienate everyone for something that unlike gays seems to be a choice.
>>13582 honestly I agree with OP isnt it better to be comfortable in your skin and your body and just express how you feel? Vaginas nor Penises make people, does it matter if youre hairier? some girls can be pretty hairy and masculine while being born with XX chromosomes
faggots are gay
>>13582 Is there a non bigoted way to deal with this dysphoria? As for hair don't they have products for that? Also I starting to feel like combating the definition of trannies is more effective then the hatred of them. The acceptance of femboy's can do a lot I believe. You do this by both recognizing your born biological sex and feminine nature.
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>>13587 This trannies prove the chchauvinistic opinions correct. it tell gay men only woman can be feminine and if you want to be feminine you must literally become a girl psychically.
if "gender" is a spectrum with infinite possible expressions, why even bother assigning the word gender to it? that guy just likes to wear thigh highs and likes to be feminine, he shouldnt have to change his name, body, sex, and life in general to feel happy in my opinion. hes just a boy who is feminine and thats okay you shouldnt have to wish to have been born differently to be happy, just be who you are <3 >>13592 i agree
>>13595 I think gender is characterized by multiple criteria. >presentation >identification >behavior >biological sex >role in society >physicality For a few examples. Therefore, it is possible to be a different gender than you identify because most of the categories aren't met, for example identifying as a femboy when you're clearly a tranny as perceived by society.
>>13576 yeah genital mutilation is p cringe plus cock is great >>13582 that will still happen even if you use hrt also femboys do not use hrt if you use hrt you automatically become a tranny
>>13604 >that will still happen even if you use hrt No, at least it won't progressively lead to masculinization. There's a reason people take testosterone blockers you know. You can still get body hair after hrt for example, but it's thinner and takes longer to grow. Regardless, T blockers prevent further masculinization.
>>13587 >>13595 Wow I so happy to see you guys didn't cancel me (OP) for this. How do we take this accept yourself for having the opposite of your biological sex gender identity. So as to live in a world of cis people that are femboy's or dykes and proudly of it. Trannies are such a cultural weapon the right uses on us, it's time to take their Ammunition.
>>13608 "Trannies" are just any androgynous people the right doesn't like. Even if nobody identified as transgender, there'd still be accusations of trannies.
>>13610 And we could undercut them by saying we like cross dressing and being femboy's but we still identity with our biological sex. Their are feminine men and that's ok, there are masculine men and that's ok. Most men and women are predominantly straight. Most people can the live in a healthy state of masculinity and femininity that ties with there sex much healthier then today. All that while those that experience the opposite can have the opposite without dysphoria and mutilation. Win win win win
this is the most civil tranny conversation ive ever seen
>>13617 It's like that when /pol/tards and wokenuts are left out.
>>13576 even tho gender often is a spook, chooosing a trans gender is a deliberate form of self-expression and thereby property of the individual and not spooked. egoism 101
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>>13617 Yeah funny how a bunch of people that don't know what they're talking about can agree on the exact same points that already align with their own expectations on a topic they are misinformed about. This doesn't line up with reality though. People usually transition because of gender dysphoria, gender dysphoria's usually present from before puberty, and gender dysphoria appears to have a biological basis in the brain that has no current effective treatment other than transition to live as the opposite gender to their AGAB (in most cases) or something in-between (in the case of non-binary people). Come up with a new solution or there is always going to be people finding a need to live as the opposite gender and be accepted as such. Uhhh I mean you should support mutilation because of gender spooks, because it's goood, and also becz le feminine girl COCK maketh my peepee hard OwO
Retarded takes all around. Locked for idpol.
>>13648 Fcuk u pig
>>13648 Thank you for unlocking again
>>13648 This one volenteer on a crusade against 'idpol' (read: things i dont like) should honestly just eat a bullet. would be a better site without them.
>>13923 you should honestly just stop sperging about this shit in random threads
>>13644 anyone have a reply to this?
>>13927 girl cock (female) is based, epic and just like my japanese mangainmes
My take is idpol should be allowed on /b/ and /gulag/, it is imperative that is stays away from our main board. That being said I see no reason conversations like these between adults can't occur. Also there is now 2 transexual threads and I want you all to know I apologise for splitting up the conversation.
>>13965 >YOU ARE TRANS BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE SAY SO.jpg >some random discord comment from some random anon in some random server is a compelling argument
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>>13969 >Hurr image is the whole post durr >hurr I can't read Fuck off speedreader. Also old.reddit.com/r/detrans/new Are all these ancedotes 'not real people?' Get over yourself liberal, exploiting trans people by trying to force various people under some 'trans' umbrella is fucking awful and a commodification of real trans people with real gender dysphoria and not someone fucking around with girly clothes.
>>13644 >People usually transition because of gender dysphoria No people usually transition because of PERCIEVED/DIAGNOSED dysphoria, which is often misdiagnosed or simply a hormonal issue, which is why de-transitioned people and transtrender criticism is a thing. >enby crap attention seeking and caused by the ego, alienated by capitalist destruction of environment (both social and natural) is forced to search for an identity because people don't know where to go, which is why this crap correlates to severe depression and subsequently suicide, and is made worse because, as a insignificant minority, this attempt at sexual identity just leads to the same bullshit; exchanging one lie for another.
>>13923 idpol is cancer and this has been proven. Moderation is human and therefore cannot always be reliable
>>13617 When knee-jerk reactionaries and liberals are kept out of these discussions with their rainbow capitalism or closet faggotry, we get actual meaningful discussion and arguments instead of rage posts about how "if you aren't unquestioningly supporting every person who calls themselves trans/trans-activist you're a bigot". We can admit that trans and gay people are humans with rights like us without necessarily supporting liberal ideas for "rights" or taking capitalist pseudo-science (backed by corporations) as word of god.
>>13973 >speedreader "argument" was literally >YOU ARE TRANS BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE SAY SO.jpg screenshot of random disco comment >are all these ancedotes 'not real people? No, I'm sure some are but I have no doubt that many of them are real. >Get over yourself liberal, exploiting trans people by trying to force various people under some 'trans' umbrella is fucking awful and a commodification of real trans people with real gender dysphoria and not someone fucking around with girly clothes. >Making up random shit to concern troll that's even less convincing given that bait pic. >>>13974 >No people usually transition because of PERCIEVED/DIAGNOSED dysphoria >de-transitioned people Often times real trans people that run out of money for hormones or detransition due to facing overwhelming bigotry. >transtrender criticism is a thing Often times simply a concern troll used by the right. >>13974 >No people usually transition because of PERCIEVED/DIAGNOSED dysphoria I find it hard to imagine someone mistakenly believing they have gender dysphoria to the point that they will seek medical transition, nonetheless doctors screen new patients that want hormones to make sure they are "sound of mind" and not actively psychotic or w/e. >which is often misdiagnosed or simply a hormonal issue Citation needed. >>enby crap attention seeking and caused by the ego.. No >>13976 >When knee-jerk reactionaries and liberals are kept out of these discussions with their rainbow capitalism or closet faggotry, we get actual meaningful discussion and arguments instead of rage posts about how "if you aren't unquestioningly supporting every person who calls themselves trans/trans-activist you're a bigot". >When a couple people in a conversation agree with me and believe the things I do we have a civil conversation
>>13587 >J U U U S S T T T BE COMFORTABLE IN YOUR OWN SKIN LOOOOOOOL I'm pretty sure they've tried that and still wanted to neck themselves afterwards. If it was so easy do you really think anyone would've ever taken hormones? I'm pretty sure hormones have other undesirable side effects, do you really think someone who is happy just being a twink femboy won't just do that instead (as many do)?
It was a pretty ingenious move to separate sex from gender baggage. But I think most transgender people have body dysphoria and hate their biological sex, not just their gender. I think it's partly because we live in a heteronormative society where sex, gender and desire lie in a clear cut grid of cultural intelligibility, so naturally trans folks feel like their sex is limiting them from becoming the gender they wanna be. This is why I think Transsexuals are just a product of suffocating heteronormative society with limited bodily autonomy.
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>>13923 i'd rather see jannies locking every tranny thread than keep on the brutal persecution against those who resist the furfag-janny opression
>>14133 If you defend trannies you should have to defend furries too imo. Same shit
>>13576 based and materialismpilled cute boys are matter, girlness of spirit is idea
>>14147 not (all) trannies are zoophilic tho
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>>14165 cuteness is ideal dumbass
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>>14130 >I'm pretty sure they've tried that and still wanted to neck themselves afterwards. If it was so easy do you really think anyone would've ever taken hormones? Yes exactly lol. Personally, I'd just be a femboi if I could. I know my life would be a lot easier/better as a cis guy, but I also know that I'm gonna an hero due to dysphoria if I have to de-transition. >>14205 Thank you, very cursed image

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