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The GET Reading Group! D. Drawanon 05/15/2020 (Fri) 22:28:46 No. 86343
Here we will plan and then implement a custom reading list of leftist literature to enhance our understanding of Marxism and further important topics!
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>>86343 I envision this to be a weekly 1hr study group where we voice chat/text on the leftytrash riot fm for faster response times. I asked the question of what exactly we see the goal of this study club. I think the responses I got was a comprehensive education of Marxism which we can then branch out into other related theories/topic when the time comes. There's a lot of reading lists that we can consider. For Cockshott, he has two lists. The first is subdivided into materialist philosophy, historical materialism (subdivided into political economy of capitalism, pre-capitalism, socialist economy), and politics and the state. The second list is a educational programme at raising new ML in the 70s - much more longer but structured into a school-like format. I don't like how the second list suggests to read this chapter and this section for a book which complicates the matter- I rather just read the whole thing. The first list should be read from politics and state, to historical materialism, to materialist philosophy. Although it is missing important texts like 18th Brumaire. I said this on leftytrash but mao's list is also p simple organizationally. I like it. A lot of short works unlike Cockshott. It's up to what the anons want though. I would rather choose something now and make it up long as we go then get bogged down on the details. First week's reading should def be the Manifesto and the Principles of Communism. Another question, do we want to tackle Capital soon? It's fairly intimidating and we could use the time going much further chronologically and author variety in Marxism. But it's Capital and it's important
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>>86374 (me) I also would like to suggest every few weeks we read fun topics like otaku theory or something for the week to break up the monotony of pure marxism
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>>86374 Honestly we should start as simple as possible, so perhaps Mao's list would be more appropriate. Personally speaking I don't care so much about the philosophical aspect of Marxism as the practical application to economics and revolutionary organizational strategy, so unless anyone wants to object, I think that would be what we should prioritize first. Also, for Kapital, I think that should be saved until this actually becomes an institution. I recognize it is important, but it by itself is not more important than having a balanced knowledge of history and general theory.
Ordered Capital vol1&2, oh yeah it's big brain time. I'd be down to do a Capital club, it would be motivating and also help everyone digest the contents easier. (but not before the 30th)
Here's a two-column formatted version of 'Principles of Communism' I made along with a copy of the Mainifesto. >>86492 For you anon, here's an introductory text to Capital complete with some nice illustrations.
I’d be down for this study group.
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>>86386 I agree entirely. I don't care for materialist philosophy and I haven't gotten around to the Empirio Materialism book suggested to me but I will eventuall >>86492 Nice! we have one person for making it a capital study group i personally wouldnt want to do it but its fine if enough people are interested >>86514 if you do participate, please add your own opinions on the direction of this study club see >>86374 >>86386
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>>86512 Thanks comrade I'll check it out. >>86521 I wouldn't want it to be focused around it entirely, but it could be an aspect of this. I am very much down for reading other stuff too. Also check out the materialism thread on /edu/ if you know your stuff!
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Since it's related, does anyone know a place I can get an e-reader for cheap (or free)? I haven't seen any in my local charity shops and I don't have any large electronics stores nearby. I just want one so that I don't fuck up my eyes more than I already have and to actually read obscure texts (sorta) physically without it costing an arm and a leg.
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It seems we have enough interest in the study club. That's good. How does next week Sunday 10AM EST (May 24) sound ? That's 5PM GMT +1 (UK) and 9PM GMT +5 (Pakistan). This week: Principles and the Manifesto >>86532 Hmm I did say I didn't really bother with the philosophical and scientific underpinning of materialism even after reading Hegel's phenomenology and mucking around the German idealists' problems. It doesn't concern me because I find Marx to be useful enough to explain the current trends of capitalism. on another tangent, have you tried emailing Cockshott about your question. I've heard he's quite responsive [email protected] >>86534 I think your only option left is online but I guess you wouldn't want that if you're asking the question oops
>>86540 This is awesome thanks a lot for this. >>86539 Sounds good, my exams finish next week so I will have time. You still sound a lot more experienced with materialism than me though, so you're take could be interesting is what I was getting at. I'm pretty new to it so I want to discuss it more to flesh out my ideas, rather than go straight to the source. >could have studied at Glasgow and got to know cockshott personally dam guys.
>>86540 I've seen this before, but I don't know how I would put something like this together since i'm not a hacker, I don't have a soldering iron and i'm not crafty enough to make a case. If there were pre-made models for sale, that would be great. <pic unrelated
>>86546 bump for more book friends
>>86539 Ah, I have eid on the 24th. Still, I’ll be able to join
>>86808 Forgot naem
>>86539 agh fuck I messed up the times. Should be 12PM EST to be consistent with the other times
>>86539 5PM Sunday is a no-go for me,can we push this forward by 2 hours?
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>>86864 it's no problem for me
>>86867 Hopefully Pakistanon doesn't mind.
>>86864 >>86870 It’s fine for me
>>86864 fine by me too
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Reminder: Sunday 2PM EST (May 24). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) This week we are reading Principles of Communism and the Communist Manifesto. Both of these documents can be found online on marxists.org We will be discussing this on the leftytrash riot group chat which is normally used for games. Does anyone have a preference for text versus using voice ? I can use either but I also sound like a literal child. I will persevere however
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>>88501 I would prefer text personally. Although it's slower I would rather not have to reveal my voice if I don't need to (maybe next time).
>>88501 Text this week and keep the possibility of voice open depending on how it goes
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>>89000 oops forgot wordfilter try this pdf
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This concludes our first reading session. It was good ! Next week ... Sunday 2PM EST (May 31st). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) This week we are reading Wage-Labour and Capital & the Critique of the Gotha Programme. Both of these documents can be found online on marxists.org https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/ https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/
>>89067 Still plenty of time to read for our next meeting any new people that want to join in!
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Second reading session done ! Sunday 2PM EST (May 31st). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) This week we are reading Engel's The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
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PDF PDF PDF We are reading the whole book
Fuck. I had work to do last week so I wasn't able to come to the reading session. Have to read three books now
Just to let you all know, I might not be able to attend this week's session as i've got a meeting at the same time with my commie org.
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>>90583 oops I should have said June 7th not May 31st >>90858 RIP. Hopefully you can come to the next session if you don't have any work to do >>91255 hmm. Do you want to make the meeting day on Saturday same time ? or maybe the meeting on Sunday but earlier ? I'm free to do either
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>>91256 If that is alright with you, Moo and everyone else that wants join in: same time on Saturday instead would be best for me.
>>91313 I'm okay with it Moo and P A, are you two okay with the date being pushed back a day ?
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>>91313 I'm fine with that. Will ramp up my reading speed now.
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Third reading session done ! We've finished The Origin of Family Saturday 2PM EST (June 13th). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) The group decided Saturday works best for the following weeks. This week we are reading Marx's The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte. Please do not feel intimidated to join. You only need to read this weeks reading to participate in the riot chat
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PDF PDF PDF The whole book is being read come join if your brain is smol and is need of theory
>>91911 Sorry I wasn’t able to join. My netbook was having some trouble and I had to do some work for my online classes.
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>>91914 that's cool no pressure
This week's reading group is postponed due to life stuff. We'll still be reading the 18th Brumaire, so if you still haven't read it yet you can join in then.
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Fourth reading session done ! We've finished The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte. Saturday 2PM EST (June 13th). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) The group decided Saturday works best for the following weeks. This week we are reading Hiroki Azuma's Otaku Japan's Database Animals The reading group was feeling a little fatigued by reading Marx & Engels so this week we decided to read something else.
>>95222 oops june 27th*
Due to popular change, this is the new book of the week instead of the Otaku one.
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Fifth reading session done ! That was a interesting session. We've finished Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism Saturday 2PM EST (July 4th). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) The group decided Saturday works best for the following weeks. This week we are reading Engel's Socialism Utopian and Scientific
Sixth reading session done ! Engel's Socialism Scientific and Utopian Join us on Saturday 2PM EST (July 11th). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) This week we are reading Engel's Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy
I couldn't find a proper PDF so I had make one of my own . It doesn't contain the footnotes however so you'll have to cross check them with the online edition. Apologies. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1886/ludwig-feuerbach/index.htm
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Seventh reading session done ! We've done Engel's Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy Join us on Saturday 2PM EST (July 18th). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) This week we are doing a double reading: A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy & Value, Price and Profit. For "A Contribution to to the Critique of Political Economy", we are doing the preface and introduction only (!)
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Online versions - Value, Price, Profit: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1865/value-price-profit/ A Contribution to to the Critique of Political Economy PREFACE: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1859/critique-pol-economy/preface.htm INTRODUCTION: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1859/critique-pol-economy/appx1.htm I'm not sure if the PDF provided has the full text of the preface and introduction but skimming the document it seems to have both. You'll have to check
>>100654 One would have to be illiterate to find any joy in this gaping sand filled VAGINA of a book
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Eight reading session done ! We've done Marx's Value, Price, and Profit Join us on Friday and Saturday 2PM EST (July 25th). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) This week we are doing a triple reading: A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy & one chapter of Anti-Duhring & a paper by Minqi Li. We'll do the first two on Friday and the paper on Saturday. For "A Contribution to to the Critique of Political Economy", we are doing the preface and introduction only (!)
The PDF for A Contribution .. can be found in the earlier post >>100562 Anti-Duhring : https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/ch16.htm We're only doing one chapter. Minqi Li's paper is in the second PDF
>>101026 harsh. i liked it
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Last week, we decided to take a break. Ninth reading session done ! We've done Marx's A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, Engel's chapter of Anti-Duhring, and Minqi Li's paper Barbarism or Socialism: 1917–2017–2050 (?) Join us on Saturday 2PM EST (August 8th). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) This week we are doing Marx's The Civil War in France.
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Tenth reading session done ! We've done Marx's The Civil War in France Join us on Saturday 2PM EST (August 15th). That's 7PM GMT +1 (UK) and 11PM GMT +5 (Pakistan) This week we are doing Marx's Capital Vol 1. Chapter 1.
>>107834 What's the plan after that?
>>107871 get in loser its vol 3
>>107875 :-( there's a lot of political work IRL I don't know if I can/should. thankfully I'm more free of work. I might have time. Might I recommend this book. Just skip the introduction, it's 50% of the "book" and it's kind of irrelevant. The rest is like 50 pages. Even reading just 25 pages is a lot of gain IMO. It's about the first chapter of Capital Vol 1, but it explains it using a lot of other sources and nice diagrams. The introduction is a motivation for autonomism, and a bunch of "everyone is a revisionist but me". Just skip it and ignore when the author mentions the introduction.
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>>107982 will give it a read thank
Eleventh session done ! For unseen reason, the reading session was delayed. This Saturday we'll be doing Chapters 2-6. PDF & EPUB can be found >>107839 Riot/Element Link found here >>107875
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why do i still do these posts when no one comes around to look at them its been 3 months we're doing chapter up to and include 15 of capital get in the chat room >>107875
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Come on you pathetic lumpens, come become true revolutionaries
we're also doing people's republic of walmart up to and including chapter 6. you can decide whether to do capital or the walmart book or even both but come join reupload w epub changes
>>109677 How do you read so much ;_;
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>>111299 it's easier when you have a group of frens to read with also you can join in on the easier one of the two this sat >>111291
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>>111299 join us fren, I've read more in this book club than the rest of my life combined
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>>111299 join us fren, I've read more in this book club than the rest of my life combined
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>>111337 >>111336 Spooky marx cultist
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Today we did People's Republic of Walmart Chapters 1-6. Next week we'll do Towards A New Socialism please come join
>>112376 we'll be reading the whole book here are the pdf and epub
>>111377 why is your loli see through?
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>>112378 *correction we'll do a half-reading this week and finish up the following week Read chapters 1-7 (Up to and including the entirety of chapter 7)
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We're reading the other half of Towards A New Socialism up to and including chapter 15. Come join >>107875
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We've finished our course of M&E, wrapped Capital in our own time, and finished several other books in between. We're now going through the lists of Lenin & Stalin
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Next week, we'll be doing Imperialism. The Highest Stage of Capitalism by Vladimir Lenin and another reading of part 8 (Primitive Accumulation) of Capital by Karl Marx
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This week we do “Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder . See the thread for invite link
So, how do i join this group and start reading?
>>116157 Create an account on element.io and join the link in the PDF (link is in PDF since m*trix is filtered)
>>116158 I'm in, now what?
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Well, last week we took a break and did #Accelerate instead, a short essay (https://criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-manifesto-for-an-accelerationist-politics/). This week we finished “Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder. Next week we're doing State and Revolution by Lenin.
>>116158 To anyone who wants to join in this week, please follow the instructions here >>116158
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New M*trix link in this PDF! This link is for the whole /leftytrash/ community, which now includes two different but related reading group rooms. Please use this one if you would like to join.
>>118190 I can't join /read/, only /trashpile/. >Failed to join room >You are not invited to this room.
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>>118309 Probably because I think /read/ is a sub room. Whatever just join /trashpile/ and we can add you to /read/
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New link PDF, due to changes in our M*trix community setup. Please use this link to join. >>118309 Apparently the room wasn't properly configured for joining via link, only direct invites. Issue has been fixed, anyone should be able to join now.
do you guys use a Kindle, phone or computer to read?
>>118825 We use all methods. Some of our members use a Kobo e-reader, some have a physical copy of the week's selection, some of us read a PDF or the HTML off a computer/phone.
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OK Next Saturday we're doing On Contradiction, Combat Liberalism, & On Practice all by Mao. We decided to take a break from Lenin. On Contradiction: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_17.htm Combat Liberalism: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm On Practice: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_16.htm
PDF/EPUB/Extra This particular On Contradiction is great since it has comments on the side. Be sure to put in double-page mode on a computer so that one side has the commentary and the other side has the book. The EPUB has a collection of all the works for this week so do check it out. If you want to join, see this >>118547 or our thread on /edu/ >>>/edu/4956 >>118547


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