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Second American Civil War - a /GET/ game Anonymous Comrade 09/16/2020 (Wed) 06:15:14 No. 113624
Inspired by both the success of the quest thread and the time bear challenged us all to chess >Basic Rules - Everyone can create a a warlord state / successor state three states in size (Ignore territories + Hawaii and Alaska) using this site (https://mapchart.net/usa.html) And post it in reply to OP for me to see (Also if you want write a lore / worldbuilding for your state etc thats cool as well) - After i give it a day or two i'll check back to see if enough people have responded and declare the game open if they have. - I will post an initial map showing what the US looks like with everyone's choices. - Everyone will start with 2 armies per state for a total of six each - States no one has claimed will be "In Chaos" and will be automatically claimed by the first person who moves an army into it - Everyone gets one move per turn - Moving army(s) into another state counts as a move. - You can build more army(s) in whichever state(s) you control as the game goes on but each one will take a move to make - Three armies can be in a state at a time. - I will use a random number gen to determine the outcomes of attacks - Attacking with inferior numbers (See: 1v2 2v3 1v3 etc) will mandate getting at least 7> to succeed Equal forces (1v1 2v2 3v3 etc) will be 5> Attacking with superior numbers (3v2 3v1 2v1 etc) will result in having to get a 3> - Losing a state loses the armies within it - Failing an attack loses 1 army - Rolling a 0 while attacking results in a critical failure and the attacking forces being destroyed entirely - After every few days i will post an updated map and read of the results of everyones moves. try to reply directly to the update with new moves to make it easier to chronicle. I will obviously try to check in every day / day or two once/if the game starts same as bear with chess or spurdo with his thread. And obviously feel free to write whatever lore or worldbuilding you want as the game goes on. That wont be counted as a turn. And all alliances or NAP's are negotiated between yourselves with no binding agreements to hold them.
>>114269 If you want to join, I'd recommend taking Maine ME as a one-state nation, but no more than 1 state >>114267 This complicates the matter. We were already in the process of signing peace.
>>114269 There are still a few unclaimed states, I don't imagine OP would have a problem with you jumping in. You'll probably be at a disadvantage though, unless your three starting states don't have to be contiguous.
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>>114275 This would be much better for all parties involved than anything the rocky coalition could propose. (((We))) do not want any conflict with the TICIP, as they play an integral part in (((our))) plans.
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>>114279 We'll see if the Indians say anything... but Louisiana doesn't want war. Cannot Soros reside in Idaho or spend the time building armies this turn?
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Communique from the Free City of Chicago, capital of the CSSA This afternoon, as patrols along the western border angry typingtically increased, President Wedding delivered a passionate speech to the people's council in defense of their democratic and socialist values in the face of continued right-wing attacks against the freedom loving people of Wisconsin by the KSR. >If we give in Wisconsin, before we know it fascists will be marching through Cleveland and beyond. The president presented the growing tensions centered around Wisconsin as an existential struggle for freedom and socialism not only in the CSSA but all across the former United States. In his speech he invited the governments of the MDL, the CSSA (south), and any other peace loving socialist nations to Cincinnati to work out an agreement for a defense treaty. >I hope to create bulwark against the rise of fascist aggression across the continent. >>114170 The CSSA (Chicago Government) announces new elite forces are being trained in the state of Illinois. >WI | 2 >IL | 1 + 1 (in training) >IN | 1 >OH | 2 >KY | 1
>>114284 >>114284 >angry typingtically <d ramatically
>>114266 >>114274 The Islamic Confederation of the Indian Plains will only accept the division of Oklahoma if the Rocky Confederation understands the threat posed by The State of Soros and acts upon it. Take either Idaho or Montana in a joint operation against the expansion of Soros that will bring Nevada back to the Indians. These are the conditions. The Rockies will now hopefully understand the strength of the Indians. REVISION TO THE MOVE OF TICIP ONLY IF THE ROCKY CONFEDERATION ACCEPTS TICIP will train an army in Arizona this turn, bringing the count of troops to 3 in both states. >>114267 Why would I want the rockies? There's only mormons and hippies, no Indians anywhere.
>>114207 >>114211 You can move an army (1) as part of your move into another state you own for free. Building an army costs a move. max of 3 armies per state. taking an unoccupied / attacking another state costs a turn. I suppose pincer attacks are ok since i let Neu-Soros do it in Idaho. So yeah if you send one (1) army each from two states that border a third it will be counted as (2) attacking armies and one move.
>>114212 Ive actually worked out a system for that as well spurdo. everything involving foreign policy starts with a base role of 5> using a 1-10 number gen which is then altered depending on ideology and proximity. since you are about as close as you can get to Cuba on the game map and have a similar ideology i will -1 each from the base requirement >Needs 3> <10 Total success The Communist Party Cuba immediately opens relations with the CSSA (Southern government) and announces their full willingness to support the CSSA as much as they can with both economic, trade, Political, Diplomatic and if necessary military aid. The New Cuban ambassador to the CSSA gives the president of the CSSA a call and simply says "We're giving you a blank check dont squander it"
>>114246 MCR Ministry of defense, seeing that a peaceful resolution to this flashpoint is drawing near, politely rejects the proposal as it is seen as no longer needed in order to keep peace in the region. However, if hostilities once again flair up, we are willing to intervene in order to protect the current borers. >>114284 MCR (previously MDL) eagerly accepts the CSSA(N)'s proposal to participate in the diplomatic summit with hopes of forming a defensive treaty.
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Current army map. If there are any inconsistencies / you want to fill in the blanks, reply to this post.
should i always wait for every player to make a move or if it goes a day without one or two people replying should i just play the move if it dosen't interfere with any of the afk players borders? Also i've finally worked out a system for acknowledging foreign policy and recognition so if you want to start asking foreign nations for aid you can start now. - First you have to actually establish relations - Then request aid - Then request being sent volunteers. None of these are counted as a "move" but you can only do these things once at a time over three turns minimum.
>>114297 I think it would be good for there to be a semi-official end turn time (perhaps somewhere around an hour or two from now each day). For those who didn't move, maybe keep track of who didn't make a move and give them two moves next turn / take over for one turn and make a neutral move (build army in remote state).
>>114170 Der Fiehrer has no moves for this turn but instead would like to open up diplomatic channels with our neighbors. >>114296 Pennsylvania has 2 armies with a 3rd being trained.
>>114305 Foreign nations as in like Gamerstan and Mexico / cuba or whatever lol players can just work out diplomacy between themselves at their own leisure.
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Pumpkin gang returns. Going to say the turns I missed was moving my militias around. It is unacceptable to have these german(dutch?) statists so close, move in for the attack. All groups colored on this map have been diplomatically recognized :)
>>114309 You can only move one army from one state. A state can have a max of 3 armies. Moving your armies move is one turn. I recommend grouping your army together as 3 in a nearby state, then attack.
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Update Army building - CSSA (Southern Government) began building an army in Tennessee. - MCR creates a new army in Missouri. - Kingdom of Louisiana building an additional army in Arkansas. - CSSA (Chicago) building a new "elite" army in the state of Illinois. - TICIP Training a new army in Arizona. Uncontested moves - Rocky confederation and the Kingdom of Louisiana organise a partition of Oklahoma. - The C.M.L-SA has utterly abandoned Nevada to be fought over between the TICIP and the rocky confederation leading the state to fall into chaos. - The C.M.L-SA occupies Montana. Battles >Pumpkin gang launches a full blown assault on the Dutch riek with (3) armies (5> to pass) <1 Attack repelled with disaster on the attackers side narrowly avoided. (1) army (NJ) destroyed. >Rocky confederation launches an offensive into Montana (2) with (2) armies (5> needed) <9 Absolute success. the (2) C.M.L-SA armies are destroyed and the Rocky confederation occupies the state.
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Refreshed army map. I believe KSR and PPA might have left us. I found their army count from earlier from the thread, but I'm not 100% sure if they are correct. Anyway, it would be cool if bear would declare their army count. Also, what is the situation with East / West Oklahoma? I am guessing Grace got one army in EOK and bear has one/two in WOK?
>>114322 oof for my move, I build an additional army in idaho
also if an army is encircled and then defeated, will that army be completely destroyed no matter what? like if the cssa lost Illinois and then their armies in wisconson were attacked
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Our move One TICIP army to Nevada If Soros is willing to give us volunteers we will moderate in any conflict with the rockies.
>>114293 >Rolled a 10 Well that went better than expected. President Murphy O'Donnell gratefully accepts the Cuban offers for aid and informs the ambassador, that the CSSA government is willing to deport known gusanos back to Cuba should the Cuban government wish to take them back. These gusanos are mainly criminals who escaped prosecution by coming to the United States when it was still known as such. Beyond that the CSSA requests assistance in the following areas: >Material aid and advisors for rebuilding the aging public infrastructure of its member states, kickstarting the expansion of its industry and thus getting the individual state economies back onto their feet. >Humanitarian aid in the form of doctors that are willing to help provide crash course training for local medical personnel and volunteers willing to learn, the CSSA government is trying to build a system of universal health care but there is currently a shortage of civilian doctors since more than a few people with sufficient training are currently enlisted for the needs of the armed forces. >Military aid in the form of Cuban advisors to help train local militias into a proper people's army through both conventional military training as well as political training >Diplomatic aid in the form of recognition for the legitimacy of the southern cause in the eyes of the world and the global communist movement >>114284 (S)CSSA's government has expressed interest in the idea of a mutual defense treaty and is willing to send a delegation from its foreign ministry to negotiate the details with their northern counterparts, including foreign minister McEarlwith. >>114322 Southern CSSA trains a second army of local militiamen in North Carolina as part of its continued border defense plan. Army count in states for next round: >Alabama, 1 army >Tennessee, 2 armies >Florida, 1 army >Georgia, 1 army >S. Carolina, 1 army >N. Carolina, 2 armies
>>114370 The TICIP wouldn’t be able to as per the agreement that I would take Montana and in return TICIP would form a non aggression pact between them and the Rocky Confederation
>>114375 It would be a violation of our NAP if you act in a way that threatens my proposed peace agreement with Soros.
>>114370 (((we))) are not sure what you are proposing. If a war is inevitable, of course sending volunteers would be a viable possibility, but as of right now (((we))) are not sure if that will be necessary.
>>114378 Nowhere in our agreed upon NAP was there anything about the TICIP relationship with the Soros States. I will comply with what was agreed, which was the occupation of Montana, and splitting of Oklahoma, and I hope the TICIP holds their end of the deal
>>114380 I am referring to the militarization in the Idaho Montana region. If anything happens, these hypothetical volunteers would serve Nevada well. Nevada is right next to Idaho and it shields California from Utah. >>114381 Any unprovoked attack on Soros would be an attack on an ally and thus me. Making it a violation of the pact.
>>114386 Also, if Soros attacks the Rockies, I will intervene on behalf of the Rockies.
The MoD of the MCR would like to inquire Chairman bear if he still considers the now-silent government of the KSR as his ally. Also, MCR's Ministry of Foreign Relations is sending a proposal to the Queen Grace of Louisiana. We would like to forge a mutual NAP, as well as a non-intervention pact - we shall stay out of your conflicts whilr you stay out of ours, so long as this doesn't violate either of our defensive pacts. These diplomatic interactions come after the conclusion of an emergency Presidium session, the full results of which haven't yet been made public.
>>114386 >>114388 Alright, but I expect the same as well >>114393 Supreme Leader YE's biggest goal as of now 1. Drop the hottest collection ever. 2. To have Peace In The Plains. So we still consider them allies, as we see it as the best possible way to achieve that goal
>>114395 (((we))) have no wish for Montana's land and resources, our only desire is to be able to move military assets through it. If you guarantee us the right to move armies through this state, we will happily sign a non-aggression treaty with you. The same applies to the TICIP and Louisiana
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>>114322 The CSSA (Chicago) continues to train forces in the state of Illinois. >>114371 >>114294 President Wedding welcome the delegations from the MCR and the CSSA (south) in Cincinnati and expressed his gratitude at their commitment to preventing the spread of fascism throughout North America. President Wedding first and foremost proposed a strategy of containment in the northern-midwest region and wishes to continue discussion about this important topic in the coming turns.
>>114309 >>114322 This assault on the Deitsches Vadderland will not be tolerated. Der Fiehrer orders 1 army to invade New Jersey from Pennsylvania as retaliation against this unprovoked aggression. Pennsylfaani (Pennsylvania): 3 -> 2 armies Tschaertschi (New Jersey): 1 army invading
Our ministry of defense finalizes the creation of the Citizen's Corps by mustering another army regiment in Nebraska. MO (3) KS (3) NE (2+1) Additionally, our Ministry of Foreign Affairs has decided to use one of the last remaining passenger planes in our borders that wasn't damaged or destroyed during the initial chaos of Federal collapse to send a diplomatic delegation on a flight to Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, in hopes of establishing diplomatic relations and studying their government system.
>>114478 MCR has just received shocking news from the citizens of the new Eastern Oklahoma state. Following the partition of Oklahoma, the people in Eastern side of the state have found themselves abandoned and undefended. Also, the partition of the state has caused an infrastructural chaos. All of this has transformed into a near-lawless state, only de-facto controlled by the servants of Queen Grace in Tulsa. Our state cannot let such a situation continue, hence we are canceling the recruitment of new soldiers in Nebraska, and instead sending in one regiment of our Citizens Army from Kansas to Eastern Oklahoma to restore stability to the region. We inform the Kingdom of Louisiana that we do not consider this as an act of war against your nation. We promise not to attack any of your home states, which we fully recognize as yours and yours alone. For this reason we are sending a single army regiment. If you so choose, you can wipe out our peacekeeping force with your superior numbers, however we do wish to avoid any bloodshed. Revised turn: MO (3) KS (3 - 1 = 2) NE (2) EOK (1 occupying empty state)
>>114309 The Queen of Louisiana is appalled at how tensions have escalated. Previously it was the Rocky Confederation, now the Midwest Citizens Republic stepping in to claim her promised land! This is the last straw to break the camel's back. Queen Grace appears on a televised broadcast and reads from paper in her hands. "Our Louisiana cannot deign having the MCR claiming my birthright. They disgrace our concord with Kanye West! The MCR's biggest insult to our Kingdom is setting up a defensive league on our porch. Who else to fend against? Louisiana, no doubt! The MCR fears the all-encompassing power of the Louisianan royal state, and our endeavor to unite Lower and Upper Louisiana! They fear the unity and strength, integrity of my empire, that is strong as a million men together, the great body-politic of the four corners of this land! They offered a NAP, and then revealed their trepidation; the cowardly dogs! They will trample our land without expecting any thorny bushes, but this won't be with impunity!" "We see no peaceful future. The conflict with the MCR is inevitable. Their military buildup and expansionism leave no choice. As they move to snatch our rightful land, the MCR claims to defend it--an insult against the integrity of Royal Louisiana! We had lost our armies in defending the just cause of the Plain Indians." "My armies will invade, and they will knock the MCR down to size--but our intention is to maintain the status quo and secure East Oklahoma as our rightful land! The Louisiana-Rocky Oklahoma split confirms it." "I re-assure the four corners of the USA, that the Louisianan Royal Army is righteous in their cause. Our counter-invasion aims to knock the MCR down to size and protect our claim to East Oklahoma. Royal Louisiana will not expand into Missouri or landgrab, except for the land that is ours--East Oklahoma!" The broadcast breaks off abruptly The Louisianan High Command already starts a mobilization for a counter-offensive, no matter what! Louisianan Royal Army strikes right into the heart of the enemy MY TURN Louisiana: 1 army Mississippi: 2 armies Arkansas: 3 armies, being sent to invade Missouri Texas: 0 army East Oklahoma: 0 army ... Using this turn to send 3 armies from Arkansas into Missouri to attack the MCR in retaliation for their plans to invade East Oklahoma. The attack is also to level down their perceived militarization. Louisiana is willing to risk tooth and nail
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This post >>114504 meant for >>114322 Using my turn to invade Missouri with my three (3) armies in Arkansas
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Alea iacta est https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqQZD0aMVZU MCR's MoFA would like to inquire Rocky Confederation and the TICIP for what is their stance in this quickly escalating conflict. Since our intervention to EOK was purely humanitarian, we would be willing to negotiate its return to Rocky oversight if Chairman YE is willing to stay neutral. We appologise to our CSSA(S) and CSSA(N) allies for creating a diplomatic incident. All help is appreciated, however for now we are fully prepared to face this aggressors threat ourselves.
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Rocky Confederation is called to maintain neutrality on terms of the Louisiana-Rocky Oklahoma Split. Since they recognized our claim, Louisiana doesn't feel they should get involved. Cough But TICIP is welcome to return our two (2) Louisianan volunteer armies. But they have no need to get involved other than sending the volunteers to fight to defend the homeland.
>>114510 MCR would advise the TICIP against sending back the volunteer forces, as this will stretch your own men thin, and make Soros once again the more powerful regional entity. Not to mention that the KoL is in no position to make demands, and is also leaving their state of Texas - a land that once belonged to your ancestors - completely exposed.
My Move Build up one new army in Wyoming >>114494 >>114504 >>114507 >>114510 The Rocky Confederation is looking at the situation and what the two sides are saying and is deciding on staying neutral for now. However, due to the nature of neutrality, and its treaties signed, this means that the TICIP is allowed to move troops through Colorado and North West Oklahoma for battle but the MCR is not allowed to send in troops, as allowing troops to go through to attack the TICIP and KoL would be a violation of the NAP signed, so its sorry if it may seem as if the Rocky Confederation doesn't seem neutral. Supreme Leader YE is willing if this is a truly humanitarian mission, to occupy all of Oklahoma territory for now, butultimately respect the borders set by Louisiana-Rocky Split when the KoL decides to move an army into East Oklahoma. >>114341 sorry Utah: 2 armies Colorado: 1 army North West Oklahoma: 1 amy Wyoming: 0 armies (though one being built)
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Louisiana also uses this time to send an envoy to establish relations with Haiti. We seek to get a foreign power on our side eventually and cannot lag behind.
>>114510 I'm in no position to give the armies back and you are in no position to demand them back. I'm building an army in Nevada next turn. TELEGRAPH TO THE KRUSHCHEVITE ARYAN CORN CASTE STATE Strike the midwest and TICIP will ensure the Rockies treat you well and aid in the invasion.
>>113817 TICIP lauds the insurgent destruction of the imperial core.
>>114529 Louisiana understands their predicament and doesn't demand their soldiers. you sacrificed enough turns moving those armies back and forth The Louisianians will only request moral support for the Louisiana-MCR War. Moral Support to re-assure the world the righteous cause of the Louisianans.
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Rocky Confederation X (N)CSSA???? >>114428 explain to me what you want to do


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