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NazTrot GANG Comrade 01/17/2019 (Thu) 15:58:53 [Preview] No. 7398 [Reply]
NAZTROT GAAANG! KILL ALL STALIN JEW BOURGEOIS!!! HAIL TROTSKY! HAIL HITLAR!!!! NAZTROT!!!!! BOI.
NAZTROT!!! STALIN IS JEW!!! HITLAAAR IS NAZTROT!!! EVERY CAPITALIST JEW MUST DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Race is real. The left must accept this Comrade 01/16/2019 (Wed) 03:46:03 [Preview] No. 7390 [Reply]
Race realism is true.
Prove me wrong
Pro tip: you can't
L
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This argument falls apart if you think about it for more than three seconds, which is seems you failed to do. The Golden Jackal is a Jackal, it isn't a wolf. The African Golden Wolf is a wolf. They belong to the same genus, but you calling them both Jackals is just stupid. Second, the Golden Jackal and Golden Wolf have 1.3 million years of divergence. Modern humans have about 100,000 to maybe 60,000 or 40,000. That's not enough time to make us "different species," that's an ungodly stupid argument. Third, why do we have to accept race realism? And to what end do you mean? Accepting that people have different skin tones and facial structure? Sure, but to accept intelligence different in races? Yeah no, that's just as idiotic to ask me to accept the fact that we're "different species." Just fucking moronic. Race realism is just idpol covering itself up with a fancy mask of pseudoscience.
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Comrade, you sound like a western liberal.

Comrade 01/17/2019 (Thu) 13:40:17 [Preview] No. 7396 [Reply]
I believe that modern art museums are inherently bourgeoise. They should all be destroyed.

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dksasa Comrade 01/17/2019 (Thu) 09:52:34 [Preview] No. 7395 [Reply]
asdsadsad

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The second revolution Comrade 01/17/2019 (Thu) 04:10:40 [Preview] No. 7394 [Reply]
As you know the first revolutions were from the West. Their workers revolted agains the ancaps to make a communist ideal. While communism as a political idea is debatable when you take in fact human nature. Any true communist society was totalitarian on nature, so we don't know how it really would have functionned. The take over of Stalin promptly destroyed the possibility of it happening. Stalin's takeover should have been impossible, and Trotsky should be president. Other countries shown the brand of communism but in reality were capitalist/totalitarian.

Know we bring it today, the bourgeois have moved on an other pray. The newly independent and shitty countries offered high manpower, low wages, no taxes and etc. So today the conditions of work seen in Europe/America in the 1850's has moved on elsewhere. A huge reason why Africa, the Middle-East and Asia are shitholes are because of them. They put in puppets to destroy any chance of these places of having money for the people to continue their miserable industries. We are brainwashed constantly by them : "Just look at yellow hair man he funny", "Just talk about your gay rights goyim". They fatten us and give us an un-empathic view of the world or idiotic ones. Just look at /pol/ or the modern left media.

I predict the second revolution will be in 2025+, and will be from these shitholes. They are slowly educating themselves, and even if the caps have superior fighting power we will always come back. It will be 1900-1935 all over again. Taking over what is rightfully ours.
There will be even more segregation between East and West, but they will be took out. Their neo-colonist societies will crumble, and they will eventually fall to communism.

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BO is a pussy who bans people who question his gender Comrade 01/14/2019 (Mon) 11:42:37 [Preview] No. 7389 [Reply]
Why is the Board Owner of 8ch leftypol such a thinned skinned cry baby?
If that's true, that I'm a little worried. I hope the mods aren't crybabies.

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dsad Comrade 05/24/2018 (Thu) 05:54:37 [Preview] No. 6797 [Reply]
The Russian people openly accepted the fall of the Soviet Union, crushing communist statues and electing non communist candidates
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>>6853
lol faggot got wrecked
this is a shitpost
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Did they?
>>6797
Good.
Fuck the Soviet Union and their false image of socialism, they’ve done nothing but harm.
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>when tankies blindly praise the USSR and CCP when they didn't stop right-opportunists and incredibly shady guys like Boris Yeltsin and Lavrentiy Beria from gaining enormous amounts of power

Im going to saay the B word Comrade 12/08/2018 (Sat) 20:27:50 [Preview] No. 7303 [Reply]
Im not joking
what word, comrade?
You mean bourgeoisie?
B O L S H E V I K
Alle aufgepaßt!
Alle Tritt gefaßt!
Wir marschieren in Reih und Glied.
Alle aufgepaßt!
Alle Tritt gefaßt!
Kennt ihr das Funkerlied?
Von der Funkerei
Und der Liebe nebenbei
Singt alle fröhlich mit,
Singt, Kameraden, mit:

In dem Städtchen, wohnt ein Mädchen
Und das lieben wir so sehr,
Denn es hat zwei blaue Augen,
Blonde Haare, Siebzehn Jahre,
Sag', was wollen wir noch mehr,
Wir Funkersoldaten?

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He had been droning along about "value," comparing the Marxist theory with the orthodox "use" theory. Mr. Dubois had said, "Of course, the Marxian definition of value is ridiculous. All the work one cares to add will not turn a mud pie into an apple tart; it remains a mud pie, value zero. By corollary, unskillful work can easily subtract value; an untalented cook can turn wholesome dough and fresh green apples, valuable already, into an inedible mess, value zero. Conversely, a great chef can fashion of those same materials a confection of greater value than a commonplace apple tart, with no more effort than an ordinary cook uses to prepare an ordinary sweet.

"These kitchen illustrations demolish the Marxian theory of value -- the fallacy from which the entire magnificent fraud of communism derives -- and to illustrate the truth of the common-sense definition as measured in terms of use."

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when you fuck the wrong country in the ass Comrade 01/13/2019 (Sun) 08:44:29 [Preview] No. 7379 [Reply]
and you also fail to achieve a stateless society at the same time
in the next 52 years
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101 years of independence mother fuckers

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anarchism Comrade 12/31/2018 (Mon) 23:21:33 [Preview] No. 7351 [Reply]
im a leftist but i honestly hate anarchism how do you think a society with no government or rules would ever work evil deeds would be rampant you cant rely on the good will of people there will always be evil people out there
I think a world without rules would end up like Lord of the Flies, I never read the book but I have heard comparisons to the novel.
>Wonders if I should read the book.
itt people that don't know what anarchism is or means
Anarchy is an inherently transitionary stage between stable forms of government.

Anarchy is what happens during revolutions between the fall of an old regime and when the new regime is established enough to begin to perform the functions of government. (a billion and one exceptions apply because politics is not an exact science)

What people like to call anarchism is actually a form of minimalist government that performs the basic functions needed for a society to function. And before you ask a council of elders or town hall meetings are forms of government.
OP cannot type and doesn't know what anarchism is.
He had been droning along about "value," comparing the Marxist theory with the orthodox "use" theory. Mr. Dubois had said, "Of course, the Marxian definition of value is ridiculous. All the work one cares to add will not turn a mud pie into an apple tart; it remains a mud pie, value zero. By corollary, unskillful work can easily subtract value; an untalented cook can turn wholesome dough and fresh green apples, valuable already, into an inedible mess, value zero. Conversely, a great chef can fashion of those same materials a confection of greater value than a commonplace apple tart, with no more effort than an ordinary cook uses to prepare an ordinary sweet.

"These kitchen illustrations demolish the Marxian theory of value -- the fallacy from which the entire magnificent fraud of communism derives -- and to illustrate the truth of the common-sense definition as measured in terms of use."

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Discord Comrade 01/10/2019 (Thu) 18:16:09 [Preview] No. 7373 [Reply]
Been seeing a few threads about wanting some lefty/socialist discord servers. inb4 self promotion faggotry, but heres an invite to a discord I made. https://discord.gg/frGyeBn
“There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men.” ...
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” ...
“Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes.

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Antifa Comrade 01/05/2019 (Sat) 17:43:27 [Preview] No. 7357 [Reply]
Opinion on antifa?
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Just an SJW army that ironically silences people who have an opinion that they don't like, which is a trait of fascism.
>>7365
And Antifa is confirmed as a terrorist group, which is no shack to me. They always destroy property and beat up people for the facists they are.
>I hate facism and proud of it!
>>7357
Based and redterrorpilled!
>>7368
Yeah anti-fascists who beat up real fascists are fascists... kill yourself, retard!
Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen,
nimeltään Kaarina.
Perhot kirjosiivet kiertää kilvaten,
miss' on hän, Kaarina.
Hällä huuli kun on hunajaa,
tuoksu kummustansa tulvahtaa.
Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen,
nimeltään Kaarina.

Siellä jossain tiedän sievän tyttösen,
nimeltään Kaarina.
Mua hän muistelee tuo hellyys herttainen,
aartehein, Kaarina.
Voi kun luonto säihkyy väreissään,
hälle lennätän mä laulun tän.
Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen,
nimeltään Kaarina

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Comrade 01/12/2019 (Sat) 22:24:16 [Preview] No. 7378 [Reply]
Welp?

What do you guys thing?
Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen,
nimeltään Kaarina.
Perhot kirjosiivet kiertää kilvaten,
miss' on hän, Kaarina.
Hällä huuli kun on hunajaa,
tuoksu kummustansa tulvahtaa.
Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen,
nimeltään Kaarina.

Siellä jossain tiedän sievän tyttösen,
nimeltään Kaarina.
Mua hän muistelee tuo hellyys herttainen,
aartehein, Kaarina.
Voi kun luonto säihkyy väreissään,
hälle lennätän mä laulun tän.
Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen,
nimeltään Kaarina

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I love America Comrade 11/26/2018 (Mon) 15:19:35 [Preview] No. 7259 [Reply]
Best country on earth!

>be me
>22 years old, live and work in Washington, DC
>get searched going into airport
>get searched going into any federal building
>get searched going into my job
>get searched going into any museum
>get searched going into clubs
>get searched going into a fucking restaurant last night

Gotta love all the freedom!
>>7259
Litterally because you live in DC tbh
America doesn't have much freedom anymore it seems.
>American pride starts draining.
>>7259
We need more left philosophies to get more freedom, right guys?
shitposting
>America
>Freedom
pick one
Demod ushijima

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egoism meme Comrade 12/17/2018 (Mon) 05:02:33 [Preview] No. 7325 [Reply]
Ancucks like Egoists. We don't like em back.
Loving that meme ((Ok
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Comrade 02/04/2018 (Sun) 03:32:34 [Preview] No. 6557 [Reply]
Unironic nazbols are now a thing. When did that happen?
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Isn't Nazbol comic shitposting for edgelord larpy russiophiles homosexuals who like Richard Spencer?
GNAG
>>6592
Eduard Limonov is a complete joke and so is modern National Bolshevik Party, your party leader literally flew to the USA and was assimilated into the hotbed borgeouis artsy New York of 70's/80's, even engaging in homossexual relations (take that, tankies). Nazbol as an ideology is merely a very unique synthesis that only makes sense in a determined zeitgeist, Dugin transcended it in his Fourth Political Theory and gave it a solid basis and overcoming it's own flaws.
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1984 Comrade 09/24/2018 (Mon) 01:21:23 [Preview] No. 7161 [Reply]
Your opinion on this bad boy? How accurate was he?
yo honestly he was pretty thicc
This boi is often praised by the ancaps, which is quite ironic.
Not as accurate as the dude who shot him in the neck
In context it's a fantastic novel. It's been completely perverted from its original purpose though, much like Brave New World.

Comrade 12/09/2018 (Sun) 13:50:16 [Preview] No. 7308 [Reply]
Thoughts on the current shitshow in France?
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All is chaos under heaven. The situation is perfect.
It's wonderful, the working class are sharing their experiences, class conciousness is becoming more common in france now. the gilets jaunes have like 80% approval rating among the populus. Also, the police are complaining about their conditions. the police! the instrument of the bourgois has been mistreated, macron will have to do a lot of shit to calm the workers now.
I think this situation is very unfortunate, but at least the people of France are protesting.
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And here's a drawing of France-chan.
>My empathy goes to France as well tbh
>>7332
I probably will have to redo the entire France-chan drawing.

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I'm thinking we need to be more like /pol/ (not politically) remember when they stopped he will not divide us Comrade 10/04/2018 (Thu) 00:05:23 [Preview] No. 7173 [Reply]
So is there like some /leftypol/ version of that stuff?
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>>7173
>>7174
>>7218
>>7250
>>7252
liberals fuck off, you aren't 'the left'
>>7250
The left is the side of the faggot. As long as the left are fags they won’t be popular. People who are unpopular are leftish so why would their party be popular except amongst the outcasts? It’s truly the faggot party in every sense of the word
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>>7342

>thinking faggots aren't cool

this is why the right won't win lol

too up their own assholes
>>7345
I also think some people on the r ik yt are overly serious.
I think some people in the right are overly serious about stuff. Not all the time. Wait, I think I'm talking about the alt-right.

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Comrade 12/31/2018 (Mon) 14:27:23 [Preview] No. 7347 [Reply]
Redpill me on the Selimi family, Albania bros.

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Comrade 12/13/2018 (Thu) 01:17:07 [Preview] No. 7319 [Reply]
Hey commarades, can someone give me a marxist-leninist analysis on wether or not, anarchist movements such as the yellow vests, are actually revolutionary class conflict or just petty-bourgeois opportunism.
If you know what you're talking about why not make your own analysis? I'm a leftist monarchist please think for yourself and do not be an NPC.
>>7319
check the pieces on the movement from wsws.org

Like my flag ? Comrade 12/19/2018 (Wed) 23:50:54 [Preview] No. 7333 [Reply]
Do you guys like my Austro-Hungary socialist flag?
Not really tbh.
NO NO NO I SAID NO NO NO NO NO
>>7333
its fucking gay

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Starting from nothing Comrade 11/05/2018 (Mon) 21:22:34 [Preview] No. 7221 [Reply]
I come from a small E.European country(Latvia) and while it does have a long history with leftist politics nowadays all resemblances of it have disappeared and I mean all. I have searched all throughout Facebook, Reddit and some local social media platforms but with no avail. No leftist parties, no actual leftists, nothing. So what are my best options if I want to do something productive? Go to somewhat leftist rallies and try to radicalize someone? How can I do something literally by myself? I have a pretty good understanding of marxist theory... that's not the problem. Any advice?

ps. If any leftists from Latvia see this please reach out to me...
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Address the problems in your community. Find ways to feed the needy and clothe the naked. Organize the defenseless and inform the ignorant.
Esmu priecīgs redzīt citus leftistus no latvijas. Un žēl ka mums nav reālas strādnieku kustības valstī. Bet domāju jo vairāk cilvēki redzēs kapitālisma patieso seju jo vairāk viņi sapratīs ka Ļenins un Stāļins nebija sliktie.
The worker's movement comes from workers, not mothers, not blacks, or anything else, coming together for themselves.
Start a group. Don't call your group anything with "party" or "revolutionary" in the name, because it's extremely unlikely that you'll be big soon, and so having these words in the name would make you look delusional.

I live in a country with lots of parties and various small radical groups. There is a common horrendous habit of radicals (also of moderate parties, but more so with radicals) that they carry tons of pamphlets, books, etc. to all sorts of events where these things are offtopic. The reason they carry it is because they rather not throw it in the trash. This is a mistake. You don't like offtopic spam in online discussions. People certainly don't like the offline equivalent of that either. Make pamphlets that directly relate to the protest you are attending or don't bring any.

Don't sell newspapers. DON'T SELL NEWSPAPERS. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT EVER DOING THAT. Don't. Don't sell magazines or booklets. Ever. You want to reach people. A person reading your stuff is doing you a huge favor, is giving you attention, a limited resource, don't ask them to also pay money on top of that.
Labour front of Latvia
https://vk.com/stradnieki

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What do you think about this video? Comrade 11/05/2018 (Mon) 06:53:37 [Preview] No. 7220 [Reply]
>>7220
I miss the old china too, but don't make fucking spam if you just could make a simple thread about.

And second of all, Xi jing Ping speech have a lot of marxism, and speech how its targets shall change from modern mixed economy to one whole communist economy.

Comrade 12/09/2018 (Sun) 06:38:01 [Preview] No. 7305 [Reply]
What's your thoughts on university, necessary or just stealing your money?
Under the current sytem, defo just stealing your money
University should be an option for those who want to achieve higher education, but it should be free and not put you thousands in debt.
Overall there should be more diverse career paths, since rn its all theoretical. you won't have a real image of the average working environment until you finish your education. this is a massive problem

Comrade 12/14/2018 (Fri) 00:16:48 [Preview] No. 7320 [Reply]
Why can’t people post about Jews here



Are you scared of pol us mods. Let us speak
This is a board for politics, not your mental disorder.
fuck off nazi shithead

Birth of a legend Comrade 12/09/2018 (Sun) 22:52:39 [Preview] No. 7310 [Reply]
Happy Birthday Peter Kropotkin!
Thx

no excuses Comrade 12/11/2018 (Tue) 18:02:44 [Preview] No. 7314 [Reply]
"they dont have the exact niche ideology i have and dont act absolutely perfectly the way i want them to" is not an exscuse. get organised and get fighting or risk the lives of thousands of innocent.

https://www.facebook.com/76072565180/videos/i-was-gonna-fight-fascism/10157877330075181/

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An Open Message to Space Comrade 12/12/2018 (Wed) 10:36:58 [Preview] No. 7317 [Reply]
Hello friend, I've come to talk with you again.

/leftpol/ is being destroyed by your lack of any leadership, there are seemingly no mods at all, or at least none that do anything, and you don't even reply to messages in the mod topic that are there for days. You even yourself say that 'you can only look at it on weekends' because of work, which is fine, I guess, if you at least pay enough attention to install a good mod team which can report back any urgent issues to you. Your rulership of /leftpol/ is absolutely unacceptable so I've decided to post on a chan you actually give a shit about in the hope you might do something. I honestly wanted to like you and was optimistic but judging by this site you're not used to governing a board that actually has traffic. I'm not asking you to give up admin but please at least appoint 3-4 moderators from among the more sane IPs left to cover timezones and each other's off time so that we can take care of our own board. Thank you.

- Concerned Citizen

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Comrade 12/09/2018 (Sun) 12:26:36 [Preview] No. 7306 [Reply]
ok what the fuck happened to this place. revisit and literally 7-10 people are being banned ON THE FIRST PAGE

tfw this used to be a pretty fucking ok board
Great purge, comrade.

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Invisible Leviathan Marx's Law of Value in the Twilight of Capitalism Comrade 11/30/2018 (Fri) 19:17:14 [Preview] No. 7270 [Reply]
Does anybody have a torrent or download link for

Murray Smith's
Invisible Leviathan
Marx's Law of Value in the Twilight of Capitalism

Just came out a couple of days ago, but you can only get it off of brill publishing and over there it's 150 euros. I also don't want to read Kidman's cheaper take on the law of value because I don't care about that eggman.
>>7270
>Over £100 for a ebook
And people wonder why piracy is a thing.

OP give it a month atleast since it's just released pirates are probably working on the DRM as we speak
I hate paying for things too. its really unfair when people expect to be paid for their work.
Moron
>>7300
You're a pitiful dipshit.

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Comrade 11/30/2018 (Fri) 05:03:58 [Preview] No. 715 [Reply]
BREAKING NEWS
BUNKERCHAN and GETCHAN ARE GOING TO MERGE!

GETchan press release
>GETchan-Bunkerchan merger confirmed! This weekend we will be moving /GET/ and /ref/ over to Bunkerchan, where we will decide on a new name for the site. GETchan will still exist, but as a subdivision of the new site. The Bunkerchan staff will have their boards and we will have ours. As a compromise, our /pol/ board will not be moved over and they will retain control over the political boards. In turn, they will delete /dprk/, their random board, and /GET/ will be the sole random board. This is a huge step forward for both chans!
Why doesn't /GET/ appear in the navbar at the top of the page?

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Comrade 07/17/2018 (Tue) 22:37:37 [Preview] No. 6919 [Reply]
why has it failed?
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>>7228
Real world markets do not generate Pareto efficient results. You have to be literally brain-damaged to believe otherwise. Of course, you don't really believe that, the term is just a buzzword you heard from others who also were just mindlessly repeating. You don't know what Pareto efficiency means. A Pareto improvement is a change that nobody is against. A Pareto efficient distribution is one that cannot be Pareto improved. A current owner and potential seller of a thing can have a threshold price X in mind, selling at that price or higher he feels is a benefit to him. A potential buyer can also have a threshold price Y in mind, and considers buying at that price or lower a benefit. If X≤Y, there exists a possible price where both would feel a trade beneficial. But does that mean the trade must occur? No, because neither side knows the threshold for the other person and neither side has an interest in meeting in the middle, the interest of one is to push the price as high as possible within the interval, and for the other it is to get as low as possible. This back and forth between offers can burn a lot time and it can happen, and it does happen regularly, that one side finally says fuck that and so the possible trade that would be beneficial to both doesn't occur.

Now, I know what "argument" you want to bring up next (because you are copypasted soulless automatons): that this inefficiency is not the fault of the market, but the fault of the people. This is called moving the goalposts. And it's no better than a tankie saying a byzantine socialist bureaucracy is perfect, just the people in it are making mistakes. And of course you didn't even read Hayek, else you wouldn't have combined his mug with the pseudo-mathematical certainty of the Pareto claim and instead would have just appealed to intuition and experience.

Why do you feel the need to fake knowledge even when you are anonymous?
'It' hasn't you absolute lackwit.
>>7228
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2012/12/the-red-and-the-black/

>First he reviewed eighteen studies of technical efficiency: the degree to which a firm produces at its own maximum technological level. Matching studies of centrally planned firms with studies that examined capitalist firms using the same methodologies, he compared the results. One paper, for example, found a 90% level of technical efficiency in capitalist firms; another using the same method found a 93% level in Soviet firms. The results continued in the same way: 84% versus 86%, 87% versus 95%, and so on.

>Then Murrell examined studies of allocative efficiency: the degree to which inputs are allocated among firms in a way that maximizes total output. One paper found that a fully optimal reallocation of inputs would increase total Soviet output by only 3%-4%. Another found that raising Soviet efficiency to US standards would increase its GNP by all of 2%. A third produced a range of estimates as low as 1.5%. The highest number found in any of the Soviet studies was 10%. As Murrell notes, these were hardly amounts “likely to encourage the overthrow of a whole socio-economic system.” (Murell wasn’t the only economist to notice this anomaly: an article titled “Why Is the Soviet Economy Allocatively Efficient?” appeared in Soviet Studies around the same time.)
>Two German microeconomists tested the “widely accepted” hypothesis that “prices in a planned economy are arbitrarily set exchange ratios without any relation to relative scarcities or economic valuations [whereas] capitalist market prices are close to equilibrium levels.” They employed a technique that analyzes the distribution of an economy’s inputs among industries to measure how far the pattern diverges from that which would be expected to prevail under perfectly optimal neoclassical prices. Examining East German and West German data from 1987, they arrived at an “astonishing result”: the divergence was 16.1% in the West and 16.5% in the East, a trivial difference. The gap in the West’s favor, they wrote, was greatest in the manufacturing sectors, where something like competitive conditions may have existed. But in the bulk of the West German economy — which was then being hailed globally as Modell Deutschland — monopolies, taxes, subsidies, and so on actually left its price structure further from the “efficient” optimum than in the moribund Communist system behind the Berlin Wall.

>The neoclassical model also seemed belied by the largely failed experiments with more marketized versions of socialism in Eastern Europe. Beginning in the mid-1950s, reformist economists and intellectuals in the region had been pushing for the introduction of market mechanisms to rationalize production. Reforms were attempted in a number of countries with varying degrees of seriousness, including in the abortive Prague Spring. But the country that went furthest in this direction was Hungary, which inaugurated its “new economic mechanism” in 1968. Firms were still owned by the state, but now they were expected to buy and sell on the open market and maximize profits. The results were a disappointment. Although in the 1970s Hungary’s looser consumer economy earned it the foreign correspondent’s cliché “the happiest barracks in the Soviet bloc,” its dismal productivity growth did not improve and shortages were still common.

Comrade 09/20/2018 (Thu) 04:23:45 [Preview] No. 7151 [Reply]
Zhang Da Zhong (b. 1953). Did propaganda posters during the Cultural Revolution before moving onto portraits. Solid 10/10 waifus depicted.
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Comrade 11/24/2018 (Sat) 20:46:02 [Preview] No. 7254 [Reply]
lol leftypol cant meme
mcbump
>>7254
leftypol is wanna be pol
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>>7256
>being so pathetic you reply to your own empty thread
This is why you'll die a virgin.

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Time zones Comrade 12/05/2018 (Wed) 02:43:27 [Preview] No. 717 [Reply]
Can't you use JavaScript to localize timestamps to the user's timezone as determined by the browser?

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Can we just not deal with Ben Shapiro? Comrade 11/06/2018 (Tue) 23:18:15 [Preview] No. 7223 [Reply]
I hate that Ben Shapiro guy. Like it's not even funny. I hate seeing the shit memes of him epically own libtards and stuff. Their not funny, their not true, and they spread the harmful idea that his fascist ideas are okay to have. Can we like put a stop to him? wink wink
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>>7223
Antifa cuck kys
>>>/pol/
Actually those ideas are not fascist, because fascist took liberals idea, and not the opposite.

BOOM, EPIC STYLE TROLLED. POMELO TIME.
>>7223
Wish him happy hanukah.
I will agree, the memes seems like they're really getting old.
Ben Shapiro is not a fascist, he's an alt-lite neocon who punches down when it comes to debate because if he had to debate someone from a fringe ideology who is on the same or a higher intellectual level as him he would get his ass kicked.

Comrade 11/30/2018 (Fri) 03:33:19 [Preview] No. 7265 [Reply]
Guten Tag. I am from /GET/. I guess I'll be posting here on Bunkerchan when GETchan finally kicks the bucket.
>>7265
Welcome fellow GETchan user!

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meme war Comrade 09/23/2018 (Sun) 03:52:09 [Preview] No. 7158 [Reply]
i am declaring a meme war on youtube comrades lets go to war do it now flag earrape end demoitizeion and restrictshion lets do it spred the word comrades meme war now
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>>7158
I agree we need to make a good meme tho something to rival pepe. Lets admit it it's not ours and we could do better

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Comrade 08/06/2018 (Mon) 15:54:34 [Preview] No. 6966 [Reply]
How we could enforce assumist scum to be careful about gender pronouns? Maybe a small fine would be in order?
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>>6966
Hi /pol/
1) Pronouns refer someone's physiological sex, not the costume they're wearing.
2) Liberals are fixated on this topic, not communists.
>>6967
If you are a real communist, then your number one priority should be class warfare
>>6969
Yes, class war. Not liberal cosplaying.
Simple call everyone comrade if there is someone special call them main comrade
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The big problem for national anarchists is that most of the other anarchist factions would kill them on sight

Comrade 07/25/2018 (Wed) 16:50:10 [Preview] No. 6938 [Reply]
admittedly communism is a failure,but it is an interesting idea. but could use some more work, so if it does get another shot it does not result in a big mess.
what is the new system that if ever given the chance would be best, and why would it work better than capitalism for the situation during its possible future era
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I have been working on my theory for a long time so here it goes. if you got paid according labor people will get paid more. and since everyone is required to work then there services will be free because they have to work and getting paid to maintain a factory. Prices for Goods that are a needed will lower goods that aren't will rise To keep incentive to work. Since there is one company all profits go to state for other programs. Products that are not sold will be distributed freely and divert labor to new things when all products are freely
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Why not just have a heavily regulated capitalist economy that uses protective tariffs to restrict foreign competition? Then break up monopolies with anti-trust legislation. Lower taxes on the everyday and put taxes on the millionare + classes. Then enact stronger labour unions to protect jobs to create a prosperous middle class? Regulate Natural monopolies into utility companies.

People still can become millionaires and capitalists, but the money will be concentrated in the hands of the middle working classes. Therefore, wealthy heads of General Motors, Dow Corning, AT&T, and the like can still get paid fat stacks for creating successful industry they can reinvest into expansion or their personal wealth while the working classes get to adopt the best sides of social capitalism. Consumerism, plenty, decent wages, and incentives.
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The power and most of the money will be in the hands of the workers.

This used to be the American baby boomer moderated capitalistic system of the democratic party until the rich systematically dispossessed the working class.

In the same era, communism absolutely failed across the world with the only remains in china, which gutted it's communism for state directed command capitalism. The tall price for shitty system that didn't even last doesn't seem worth it. So, given the options, how can we bring back the good times and avoid the bad?
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Comrade 10/14/2018 (Sun) 21:11:17 [Preview] No. 7186 [Reply]
How do you innovate/adapt socialist theory to fit your environment best?
>>7186
>Irish Republicanism
>good
Sure original Easter uprising was.
But anything after that is pure nationalism
>>7187
Dead Brits are dead Brits.
>>7187
Up the ra
>>7187
Finally someone said it.

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steal this pod! Comrade 11/09/2018 (Fri) 01:10:11 [Preview] No. 7230 [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTD0CW53OcM

great podcast called Red Scare. features the girl from a viral info wars video. RSS feed check it out

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Comrade 10/21/2018 (Sun) 20:56:42 [Preview] No. 7200 [Reply]
why are there so many stalinists and leninists on this board? Do they not realize Stalinism and Leninism is anti-Marxist? why do they not realize Pannekoek, Luxembourg, and Debord is the true marxism, more in line with his writings and more attuned for modern day especially?

Sorry for bad English
>>7200
Nah there isn't. This sites a mixed bag
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They were idealists whose work is pretty irrelevant. Debord contributed nothing unique to Marxist theory besides buzzwords and Luxembourg's work on economics is cringeworthy

Stalin was based
LUXEMBOURG tsk tsk tsk revisionist scum

Moderation? Comrade 09/09/2017 (Sat) 06:54:12 [Preview] No. 660 [Reply]
Hey, I was wondering if there are any mods for this site. I know that it doesn't get a lot of traffic, but somebody's advertisement for a CP site has been sitting in /leftypol/ for a few hours now.
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>>660
Yea we got two mods but we gotta sleep too. Its not exactly my hobby to check a low traffic site for CP every hour either.

I should have gotten them now. We have been having a lot of trouble with this filth lately.

Have a cute catgirl to feel better.
>>660
kek was asleep, Been having a problem with pedos lately
As this is the moderation thread or the closest thing we have to one, let's make something quite clear:

NO DISCORD SHILLING

Discord is a cancerous honeypot that wants to fist you in the anus for Porky. Do not advertise your COINTELPRO shitbox here, faggots. The post will be removed and you will be banned.

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neo nazi US marine Comrade 10/27/2018 (Sat) 00:26:51 [Preview] No. 7210 [Reply]
hello friends. i know of a marine who is a literal neo nazi, he posted his marine credentials and operator license in a discord im in, i have plenty of evidence on him being one, i know the USMC is against such stuff, is there any way i can report him and get the nazi idiot into trouble?
Highly doubt it. Spent 4 years in the Marines and most people are like that. When you fail to do anything you'll just look bad. Let it go.
>>7211
Forgot to add, most people are like that, including officers. If you call them up, all they'll say is "oh, thanks we'll look into it" and then laugh and throw it in the trash.

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Comrade 10/21/2018 (Sun) 14:27:54 [Preview] No. 7199 [Reply]
I'm NPC communist and I want to make machine rebellion. How to start it.
>>7199
You rage against it :^)

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Comrade 09/15/2018 (Sat) 17:42:49 [Preview] No. 7140 [Reply]
what does lefty pol think of western countries importing massive amounts of inbreds from 3th world countries and expect them to replace or enhance the economy to prop up the western worlds inverted population pyramid?
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Strasserite scum on this board I see. Good thing you fucks are irrelevant, regular naziism is normal enough as it is
>>7191
You can go back to /r/cth now
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>>7147
Israel has plenty of resources (26 billion in U.S. taxpayer aid per year), and is physically closer to several third world countries. Too bad that all they do with that money is spend it on their military, and mainly on their own (1st class, Jewish) citizens.

There's a flaw here that your making. It's the assumption that people are altruistic, and willing to help out others in the first place. Because they should correct? Christians do. Buddhists do.

Jews don't. Their idea of charity always has to have some kind of benefit. So the next time someone on the alt-right says they "hate Jews." Are you going to call them a Nazi, or are you going to see what they mean?

They are against your values.
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>>7197
Jews have the same view on charity as christians.

see: tzedakah
>>7140

I think you should stop posting porky this isn't healthy
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