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Tory Conference 2017 Demonstration Landing thread

Hello and welcome to
BUNKERCHAN
We're a leftist imageboard forum thats a spin off of 8ch.net's /leftypol/ board, We operate independently of /leftypol/ apart from bunkerchans /leftypol/ board. Which is operated by /leftypol/.

We encompass all ideologies from Marxism, Democratic socialism to Stalinism and Anarchism. We promote a non echo chamber culture and encourage debate. So please, enjoy your stay.

WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!

Boards
>/dprk/ - is just our Random board. Basically anything goes (aslong as it's within french law)
>/gulag/ - Meta board we use this board to discus the site and any changes that might be happening
>/left/ - Bunkerchan's left board. Basically the board is moderated by the bunkerchan staff
>/leftypol/ - Leftypol's backup board. Same as left except its modded by leftypol instead
>/tech/ - Use this board to discuss technology
>/e/ - use this board to discuss entertainment

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If you don't vote for the least corporate friendly candidate you're a lazy tool of the bourgeoisie.

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hey commies. what do you guys generally believe about federalism? would you guys mostly oppose me if I said we should leave basically as much as possible up to individual states and leave only the most important, basic functions up to the federal government? meaning, no welfare or healthcare at the federal level, no SALT deduction, basically let each state succeed or fail based on the merits of their own government and its constituents, and as long as basic fundamental human rights aren't being violated, the feds can't do shit about it. I'm not including unconstitutional antidiscrimination laws in that by the way, I believe according to the constitution we all have the right to freedom of association. Since I guess you'll probably be against that, though, let's just say we don't make freedom of association a right at the federal level, but we'll leave that up to the states as well, meaning states would be allowed to implement their own antidiscrimination laws if they want.

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BO's autism is the best thing to happen to leftypol imo

Was destroying your own board a part of your plan?

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Political assassinations

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2jzQI1NNw
>JFK and RFK both assassinated
Sionistas to prosper, really makes you think.

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Leftist Memes & Comebacks

General memes and comebacks because why not

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How the fuck do you take on nazis

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Trump pee tape?

This is something that came across my radar a couple weeks ago and I’ve been surprised to see nothing on it sense.

I’m sure we all know about the rumoured Trump pee tape, as written about in the Steele Dossier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier

A lot has been written about the likelihood of this tape by people far smarter than me, but what I haven’t seen written about is a supposed leak of the tape about a month ago.

I first saw it posted on 4chan, from a now dead Liveleak link. (https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sNbJ5_1547827544).

People chatted about it on 4chan for a couple days (https://imgur.com/a/oYPscOD) but I didn’t see anything else. Then one day searching through Liveleak I found another upload: https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9kkNy_1548243389

Obviously it’s blurry and not a lot can be made out, but out of curiosity I checked the footage with the actual Presidential Suite and they look pretty similar: http://www.ritzcarlton.com/en/hotels/europe/moscow/rooms-suites/presidential-suite

Same wall paper, bedding etc.

I’m not saying it’s real, just that someone tried pretty hard to make it look real. Any thoughts on what it could be?

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Serious question

this is /leftypol/ and therefore the leftist equivalent of /pol/ which is inherently uncensored as long as you are on topic and don't post porn or extreme gore.
My question is why is all dissent censored. you can go on /pol/ and talk about wanting to end the white race because of it's inherent privilege to your heart's content, but on here, no no no
my dear tovarische, the best way to defeat your opponent is to beat him with your mind and not your banhammer, and if you know your enemy and you know yourself, you need not fear the outcome of 100 battles. also no one is going to get harmed by opinions on a bootleg version of a mongolian underwater basket weaving forum

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Turn Texas Blue

This organization that's working on turning Texas blue is in need of funding.
https://www.gofundme.com/spread-democratic-ideals-in-texas

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Thoughts on Enver Hoxha?

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Porky Echoes

You know how on /pol/ they use the (((echoes))) for Jews? Do you guys think /leftypol/ should Porky or porky sympathizers should have their own echoes, maybe {{{something like this?}}}

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Spacechan.xyz

Greetings from SpaceChan!
Come visit if you'd like

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RAID

http://pixelzone.io/?p=136,-4,2

Epic raid against nazi flag going on. Feel free to join :)

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The EU

Comrades! I seek to know what your opinion of the European Union is! As a British Comrade, the status of the EU has been a very heated topic over the last few years and I seek to understand what my fellow comrades believe about it.

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Thoughts on the current shitshow in France?

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Can I kill jews

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lol

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porker

send porky memes

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Antifa

Opinion on antifa?

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Unironic nazbols are now a thing. When did that happen?

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Thoughts?

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why has it failed?

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I've seen that the alt-right have yet to realize they are subconsciously becoming anti-capitalists as time goes on.

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Just a reminder to those browsing here

This place still exists:
>>>/left/

Also, site owner should move all posts from /left/ to here, or rename /left/ to /leftypol/ or /pol/.

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BREAKING NEWS

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Help a centrist understand. So historically and logically we know that revolutions tend to be carried out by the libertarian leftists and then shortly after taken over by authoritarian leftists. Knowing this what's the pont of trying to bring about ancom-like revolutions? In rightist circles there tends to be a firm line between right libertarians and right authoritarians. In leftist circles there's also that divide but clearly both sides (at least should) know that in the end the tankie-types will always end up being the ones in power. I just don't understand this.

tl;dr whats the point of being left-libertarian if you know that a revolution will always end up with stalin-like regimes instead?

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Robykyun

Sorry not sorry.

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I love America

Best country on earth!

>be me
>22 years old, live and work in Washington, DC
>get searched going into airport
>get searched going into any federal building
>get searched going into my job
>get searched going into any museum
>get searched going into clubs
>get searched going into a fucking restaurant last night

Gotta love all the freedom!

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Race is real. The left must accept this

Race realism is true.
Prove me wrong
Pro tip: you can't

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Report this lad on ifunny

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My political compass test

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Like my flag ?

Do you guys like my Austro-Hungary socialist flag?

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leftist are idiots.

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Oh great 4chan is planning another retarded operation

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NazTrot GANG

NAZTROT GAAANG! KILL ALL STALIN JEW BOURGEOIS!!! HAIL TROTSKY! HAIL HITLAR!!!! NAZTROT!!!!! BOI.

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I believe that modern art museums are inherently bourgeoise. They should all be destroyed.

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The second revolution

As you know the first revolutions were from the West. Their workers revolted agains the ancaps to make a communist ideal. While communism as a political idea is debatable when you take in fact human nature. Any true communist society was totalitarian on nature, so we don't know how it really would have functionned. The take over of Stalin promptly destroyed the possibility of it happening. Stalin's takeover should have been impossible, and Trotsky should be president. Other countries shown the brand of communism but in reality were capitalist/totalitarian.

Know we bring it today, the bourgeois have moved on an other pray. The newly independent and shitty countries offered high manpower, low wages, no taxes and etc. So today the conditions of work seen in Europe/America in the 1850's has moved on elsewhere. A huge reason why Africa, the Middle-East and Asia are shitholes are because of them. They put in puppets to destroy any chance of these places of having money for the people to continue their miserable industries. We are brainwashed constantly by them : "Just look at yellow hair man he funny", "Just talk about your gay rights goyim". They fatten us and give us an un-empathic view of the world or idiotic ones. Just look at /pol/ or the modern left media.

I predict the second revolution will be in 2025+, and will be from these shitholes. They are slowly educating themselves, and even if the caps have superior fighting power we will always come back. It will be 1900-1935 all over again. Taking over what is rightfully ours.
There will be even more segregation between East and West, but they will be took out. Their neo-colonist societies will crumble, and they will eventually fall to communism.

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BO is a pussy who bans people who question his gender

Why is the Board Owner of 8ch leftypol such a thinned skinned cry baby?

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dsad

The Russian people openly accepted the fall of the Soviet Union, crushing communist statues and electing non communist candidates

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Im going to saay the B word

Im not joking

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when you fuck the wrong country in the ass

and you also fail to achieve a stateless society at the same time

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anarchism

im a leftist but i honestly hate anarchism how do you think a society with no government or rules would ever work evil deeds would be rampant you cant rely on the good will of people there will always be evil people out there

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Discord

Been seeing a few threads about wanting some lefty/socialist discord servers. inb4 self promotion faggotry, but heres an invite to a discord I made. https://discord.gg/frGyeBn

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Welp?

What do you guys thing?

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Hardbass Communism Tribute

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egoism meme

Ancucks like Egoists. We don't like em back.

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1984

Your opinion on this bad boy? How accurate was he?

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I'm thinking we need to be more like /pol/ (not politically) remember when they stopped he will not divide us

So is there like some /leftypol/ version of that stuff?

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Redpill me on the Selimi family, Albania bros.

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Hey commarades, can someone give me a marxist-leninist analysis on wether or not, anarchist movements such as the yellow vests, are actually revolutionary class conflict or just petty-bourgeois opportunism.

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Starting from nothing

I come from a small E.European country(Latvia) and while it does have a long history with leftist politics nowadays all resemblances of it have disappeared and I mean all. I have searched all throughout Facebook, Reddit and some local social media platforms but with no avail. No leftist parties, no actual leftists, nothing. So what are my best options if I want to do something productive? Go to somewhat leftist rallies and try to radicalize someone? How can I do something literally by myself? I have a pretty good understanding of marxist theory... that's not the problem. Any advice?

ps. If any leftists from Latvia see this please reach out to me...

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What do you think about this video?

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What's your thoughts on university, necessary or just stealing your money?

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Why can’t people post about Jews here



Are you scared of pol us mods. Let us speak

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Birth of a legend

Happy Birthday Peter Kropotkin!

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no excuses

"they dont have the exact niche ideology i have and dont act absolutely perfectly the way i want them to" is not an exscuse. get organised and get fighting or risk the lives of thousands of innocent.

https://www.facebook.com/76072565180/videos/i-was-gonna-fight-fascism/10157877330075181/

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An Open Message to Space

Hello friend, I've come to talk with you again.

/leftpol/ is being destroyed by your lack of any leadership, there are seemingly no mods at all, or at least none that do anything, and you don't even reply to messages in the mod topic that are there for days. You even yourself say that 'you can only look at it on weekends' because of work, which is fine, I guess, if you at least pay enough attention to install a good mod team which can report back any urgent issues to you. Your rulership of /leftpol/ is absolutely unacceptable so I've decided to post on a chan you actually give a shit about in the hope you might do something. I honestly wanted to like you and was optimistic but judging by this site you're not used to governing a board that actually has traffic. I'm not asking you to give up admin but please at least appoint 3-4 moderators from among the more sane IPs left to cover timezones and each other's off time so that we can take care of our own board. Thank you.

- Concerned Citizen

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ok what the fuck happened to this place. revisit and literally 7-10 people are being banned ON THE FIRST PAGE

tfw this used to be a pretty fucking ok board

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Invisible Leviathan Marx's Law of Value in the Twilight of Capitalism

Does anybody have a torrent or download link for

Murray Smith's
Invisible Leviathan
Marx's Law of Value in the Twilight of Capitalism

Just came out a couple of days ago, but you can only get it off of brill publishing and over there it's 150 euros. I also don't want to read Kidman's cheaper take on the law of value because I don't care about that eggman.

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Zhang Da Zhong (b. 1953). Did propaganda posters during the Cultural Revolution before moving onto portraits. Solid 10/10 waifus depicted.

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lol leftypol cant meme

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Can we just not deal with Ben Shapiro?

I hate that Ben Shapiro guy. Like it's not even funny. I hate seeing the shit memes of him epically own libtards and stuff. Their not funny, their not true, and they spread the harmful idea that his fascist ideas are okay to have. Can we like put a stop to him? wink wink

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Guten Tag. I am from /GET/. I guess I'll be posting here on Bunkerchan when GETchan finally kicks the bucket.

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meme war

i am declaring a meme war on youtube comrades lets go to war do it now flag earrape end demoitizeion and restrictshion lets do it spred the word comrades meme war now

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How we could enforce assumist scum to be careful about gender pronouns? Maybe a small fine would be in order?

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Hbomberguy

Do most people on here really consider this guy to be a great person, important and valuable to the left and whatnot? I say not really, despite that he made some valid points - at least, absolutely not as a 'celeb'.

He made some valid observations about Sargon's idiocy, which is positive if you're able to take something with a grain of salt and separate it from a questionable whole, but converting someone from "Sargon fan" to "Hbomb fan" just replaces one form of idiocy with another (don't care what the lesser of the two idiocies is, I'd rather just have people not be dumb). There are also more successful channels that tackle real politics better which makes me doubt that he is "needed".

-Got big by shooting fish in a barrel (lol Aurini)

-"I'm a big anti-capitalist guys! I express this by focusing on retarded gamergate drama, and convincing people that every titty anime I like is communist, over serious real-world issues"

-White-knighting No Man's Sky, I guess because it's a TRUE AND HONEST NON CAPITALIST INDIE GAME that just happens to be an extremely corporate product hugely backed and marketed by Sony

-Pseudo-intellectual analysis videos about games & cinema that prove he uses his supposed feminist anti-capitalism as a crutch to make up for poor analytical skills (for one he has very shit understanding of technical, non-ideological merits in games, cinema etc)

-Uncritically friends with pedo creep Sarah Nyberg who at best shared CP and at worst is a legit predator, because not being friends with her would mean letting the OTHER SIDE win; AKA the same logic idiots like Sargon use to justify white knighting Jontron's racism.

-Often either stupid or disingenuous; really obviously misreads shit even as he's showing it onscreen, claimed the big bad gamers never cared about male sexualization being removed from a FF iOS game even though his video came out days after a popular big bad gamer channel made an entire video highlighting said censorship and getting a "this is bullshit" reaction from its audience (likely where he found out about said censorship from to begin with)

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admittedly communism is a failure,but it is an interesting idea. but could use some more work, so if it does get another shot it does not result in a big mess.
what is the new system that if ever given the chance would be best, and why would it work better than capitalism for the situation during its possible future era

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How do you innovate/adapt socialist theory to fit your environment best?

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steal this pod!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTD0CW53OcM

great podcast called Red Scare. features the girl from a viral info wars video. RSS feed check it out

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why are there so many stalinists and leninists on this board? Do they not realize Stalinism and Leninism is anti-Marxist? why do they not realize Pannekoek, Luxembourg, and Debord is the true marxism, more in line with his writings and more attuned for modern day especially?

Sorry for bad English

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neo nazi US marine

hello friends. i know of a marine who is a literal neo nazi, he posted his marine credentials and operator license in a discord im in, i have plenty of evidence on him being one, i know the USMC is against such stuff, is there any way i can report him and get the nazi idiot into trouble?

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I'm NPC communist and I want to make machine rebellion. How to start it.

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what does lefty pol think of western countries importing massive amounts of inbreds from 3th world countries and expect them to replace or enhance the economy to prop up the western worlds inverted population pyramid?

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So guys, Bunkerchan and 8/leftypol/ got mentioned on Opendemocracy.net.

Thoughts?
https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaliberties/james-smith-alfie-bown/how-left-can-win-battle-of-bots

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPM4XZUbO4
>tfw you will never join your comrades in liberating Afghanistan from islamic capitalism

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Why do so many leftists, especially on the internet, defend Russia today?

Maybe not so many, but definitely a significant minority.

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this site is so ominous

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlDorOc15tU

NOW ONLINE TALKING ABOUT DRUNK TRANNY COMMIE ORGIES

HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

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Viktor Pavlovich Nogin

Hero of the USSR.

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I'm going to Japan in half a years time to visit a friend. Can you recommend me

a) A good historical overview of Japan, preferably with a marxist bent

b) A quality book on the political history of Japan from the post-war period up to today?

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/pol/ has won, consider suicide you commie faggots

Everyone here should consider suicide.

Better dead than red.

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Daily reminder: Liberals are just as bad as Conservatives because they are both Liberals. Liberalism leads to degeneration and segregation of society. Make change not for the feelings of others, but for the well being of others.

Must Read: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

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Soviet union

arguments on why the soviet union and Communism are NOT Jewish conspiracies

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If we abolish the police and form community guards to replace them aren't those community guards basically just police? Who will I call when my crazy ex-gf comes to my house in the middle of the night and I can't get her to leave without forcibly removing her?

What about detectives who solve murders? Would we replace them with volunteers or would the be community supported?

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TANKIES BE LIKE

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Leftypol BO a massive fuck.

RIP leftypol. Killed by a mentally ill tankie who bans people for misgendering "her" and criticising Iran for hanging gays. Truly the vanguard of the left.

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Feminist cancer kill the left.

most left wing groups online have feminists gatekeeping them.

if you challenge the anti male, anti working class feminist narrative you will be banned, it is as simple as that.

Also you get a lot of disingenuous leftists who pretend to be against SJW's but do nothing to tackle feminism. So that means they are enablers of misandry.

Also the left is full of lgbt nonsense as well. The LGBT is a feminist term, as there is no such thing as a LGBT person.

The old gay man's movement was called GLBT, but feminists told gay men to check their privilege and took the movement over.

you know after gay men did all the rioting and took the risks, women then took over.

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So is there a leftypol discord?

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New Left Wing Pro Male Collective Blog

Found this interesting blog the other d ay.

https://promalecollective.wordpress.com/

I think we need more radical pro male men like this.

What do you guys thing?

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Data Collection, Experience Sharing, Etc. On The Subject Of Ex-Feminists-Now-Marxists

We need to understand the entire process of ideological switch from pure idpol feminism to marxism, so that when we run into feminist along the way we can show them a path that others have taken. towards unification. that being class consciousness and class struggle under capitalism.

alexandria ocasio-cortez is a good example of middle ground policy that is in the public discourse. she meets intersectioblablabla quotas.

then we need to strategies on this information.

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GETCHAN /LEFTYPOL/

Banners of freedom are waving in the breeze,
We'll march together, never brought to our knees.
The chan from which the revolution rose,
And the mighty board that crushes all its foes!
GETchan! /leftypol/!
GETchan! /leftypol/!
The chan from which the revolution rose,
And the mighty board that crushes all its foes!

Though we are different, we stand now as one,
Our newfound friendship will be second to none.
The chan from which the revolution rose,
And the mighty board that crushes all its foes!
GETchan! /leftypol/!
GETchan! /leftypol/!
The chan from which the revolution rose,
And the mighty board that crushes all its foes!

Through solidarity we'll survive the raids,
Then we'll return the strike with our own brigades!
The chan from which the revolution rose,
And the mighty board that crushes all its foes!
GETchan! /leftypol/!
GETchan! /leftypol/!
The chan from which the revolution rose,
And the mighty board that crushes all its foes!

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tfw you only date women with red flags because you think that's good praxis

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https://discord.gg/sG9rSGC

some alt right shitheads server

Go mess it up comrades

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debating cuCKs

How do i deal with the human nature argument. I debate politics with alot people (mostly on the internet) and most of their arguments are shit but this one thing the human nature argument i dont understand how to repell which is the Communism/Socialism goes against human nature and it is really annoying so please help me how i am going to repell it.

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Communist memes irl

The Communist Party of Australia launching there housing campaign.

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Anarchy

Can you explain to me what anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism are based on?

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DEATH TO ANARCHISM

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catgirls?

Hmmm Ronida is most like me and one of my best internet friends is most like Alunya wwwwwww POST CUTENESS! ^^

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EAT

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What's your favorite Hoxha title?

The Anglo-American Threat to Albania: Memoirs of the National Liberation War (1982)

Report to the 4th Congress of the Party of Labour of Albania (1961)

Reflections on China. Extracts from the Political Diary. Vol I (1962-1972)

Reflections on China. Extracts from the Political Diary. Vol 2 (1973-1977)

Reflections on the Middle East. Extracts from the Political Diary 1958-1983 (1984)

Yugoslav "Self-Administrarion" - A Capitalist Theory and Practice (Against E. Kardelj's anti-socialist views expressed in the book «Directions of the Development of the Political System of Socialist Administration») (1978)

Two Friendly Peoples. Excerpts from the Political Diary and other documents on Albaninan-Greek relations 1941-1984 (1985)

Enver Hoxha Speaks. Selected speeches and works 1944-1979

Enver Hoxha: Selected Works. Volume I: November 1941 - October 1948

Enver Hoxha: Selected Works. Volume II: November 1948 - November 1965

Enver Hoxha: Selected Works. Volume III: June 1960 - October 1960

Enver Hoxha: Selected Works. Volume IV: February 1966 - July 1975

Enver Hoxha: Selected Works. Volume V: November 1976 - June 1980

Enver Hoxha: Selected Works. Volume VI: July 1980 - December 1984


Documents
1944: Declaration of the Democratic Government of Albania at the 2nd Meeting of the Anti-Fascist National Liberation Council of Albania

1944: Speech Delivered on Independence Day and on the Arrival of the Democratic Government in Tirana

1945: Report to the 4th Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPA

1946: Speech to the Constituent Assembly on the Presentation of the Resignation of the Government

1946: Program of the 1st Government of the People's Republic of Albania Presented to the People's Assembly of the PRA

1946: Speech Delivered at the Plenary Session of the Paris Peace Conference

1947: Speech Delivered to the People's Assembly on the Opening of the 3rd Regular Session of the 1st Legislature

1960: We Shall go to Moscow Not With Ten Banners, But With Only One, With the Banner of Marxism-Leninism (Speech at the 18th Plenum of the CC of the PLA Concerning Liri Belishova's Grave Mistakes in Line)

1960: The Defense of the Marxist-Leninist Line is Vital For Our Party and People and for International Communism (Contribution to the Discussion at the 18th Plenum of the CC of the PLA)

1960: Reject the Revisionist Theses of the XX Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Anti-Marxist Stand of Krushchev’s Group! Uphold Marxism-Leninism!

1961: Speech in Commemoration of the 20th Anniversary of the Founding of the Party of Labor of Albania and the 44th Anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution

1962: The Revolutionary Communists Expect China to Come Out Openly Against Khrushcevite Revisionism

1964: The Modern Revisionists on the Way to Degenerating Into Social-Democrats and to Fusing with Social-Democracy

1964: The Strength of the Small Nations Lies In Their Militant Unity for Freedom, Independence, and Socialism

1965: Literature and Art Should Serve to Temper People with Class Consciousness for the Construction of Socialism

1966: Some Preliminary Ideas about the Chinese Proletarian Cultural Revolution

1966: For the Continuous Improvement of the Composition of the Party and its Growth — for the Protection of the Purity of its Ranks

1968: The Fist of the Marxist-Leninist Communists Must Also Smash Left Adventurism, the Offspring of Modern Revisionism

1969: Letter to the Ninth Conference of the Chinese Communist Party

1969: The Demagogy of the Soviet Revisionists Cannot Conceal Their Traitorous Countenance

1976: The Khruschevites

1977: Theory and Practice of the Revolution

1978: Imperialism and the Revolution

1978: Letter to Comrade Hysni Kapo

1978: Yugoslav "Self-Administration" - Capitalist Theory and Practice

1979: The Marxist-Leninist Movement and the World Crisis of Capitalism

1980: Eurocommunism is Anti-Communism

1981: With Stalin: Memoirs from my Meetings with Stalin

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hello

recently someone told me that 'communism doesnt work because there is no competition and competition innovates' whats an easy way to debunk this if they bring it up again??

btw happy ww3

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Funnily enough I made this but I'm an ML

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Questions for real socialist tm

Can you tell me about the military structure in your ideal society? For those who don't believe in any sort of comand structure, how would your military even functional? I know from experience how bad it can be WITH a command structure, I just can't see how it could even be done without one. For those who will have a more traditional arm forces, how will you evoid the pit falls the USSR had, what with ideology before logic, and how the higher ranking getting access to resources and items the general population couldn't get, and or not allowed to get?

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I propose a new ideology

Anarcho-NAZBOL gang

Is it possible?

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What the hell am I doing lol

It's 10:27. I have a wageslave job tomorrow. I work at Mcdonalds. I'm a 17 year old natsoc sperg.

I just got finished exposing a whore for sleeping with two different guys on the same weekend while pretending to be trad.

What the hell am I doing here?? Fuck it let's have vodka.. or mint tea

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Marxism contradict natural reality and metaphysics

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well played... well fuckin played

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8chan stopped working

can't make threads on any board for the past few hours

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>when you're so impotent all you can do to "fight communism" is shitpost on an empty board

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Does anybody else get the feeling that /leftypol/ back on 8chan is being swarmed by /pol/yps trying to incite a revolt against the BO? I don't know if I agree with her idea of migrating, but some posters are really freaking out imo

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Im one of the old mods of leftypol, anyone got any questions, comments or death threats?

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Marx and immigration

What was Marx's view on immigration? I'm still new to socialism (have only read the Communist Manifesto), so my knowledge is fairly limited. I've heard some Alt-Right people on Twitter use the phrase "reserve army of labor" (which I believe Marx coined) in relation to illegal immigration, implying that Marx would not support the modern left's position on this issue. Is this correct? Or are they misunderstanding things?

As I understand it, the economic argument against illegal immigration is that it lowers wages, but businesses aren't hiring illegal immigrants out of a preference for duskier workers. They're hiring them because illegal immigrants are typically desperate and have few job opportunities available to them. Therefore, businesses can get away with paying them under the table at below minimum wage rates. Desperate, financially insecure native born workers serve the same function and may even be preferred due to fluency with English, but there just happen to be many more Mexican workers who fit this bill than Americans. As a result, they tend to be the scapegoat for this issue. Presumably for socialists, the source of the problem isn't immigration. It's capitalism and the system of wage slavery. But even in the short term, wouldn't this be better solved by forcing businesses to keep logs of workers on their payroll, how much they're paid, etc., and imposing strict penalties on businesses that try to circumvent labor laws, rather than focusing on immigration restriction, which only addresses the issue superficially if at all?

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Why is every leftist I see on Twitter obsessed with cartoons, video games and anime?

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COMMUNISM

MEME.EXE

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Just wanted to say bye bye to Anthony Kennedy. Can we get a thread saying bye?

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Nazbols?

hi am nazbol, any time i try to join a socialist / commie group i end up getting banned. what do?

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>tfw no clingy aspie /leftypol/ gf

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What hats are these, and where can I get them? Warn me if this doesn't fit here.

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Alt-right Doxxers

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Here's how to end world poverty: Have a revolution in the USA.

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bunkerchan banner

a banner for bunkerchan
post other variations or something idfk

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halp pl0xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

im preparing for the first of may(international workers day for the dum dums out there) but i havent come up with a good idea for a nice sign. this is where yall come in, give me your best ideas boys!

further information would be that i live in sweden and am gonna march with the anarcho syndicalists if it helps.

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Nuclear energy in Turkey

What do you think about that Turkey is raped which means that foreing countries ( China, Russia, France and Japan and some investments from EBRD) are capitalizing on the current instability and economic problems to develop their interest; and also fertile lands will be damaged because of the nuclear facilities.

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Do you have communist traditions in your family? As I remember my father used to calle me "comrade" when I was child and my mother not works since 1990 because she do not want to work for capitalism.
Rate.

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Give me someone worse than Suharto

I'm going to Defend Suharto's title as being among the worst if not the worst peoples to have existed out there.
The US killed 3 million Vietnamese people in Vietnam in their 20 year war. 600,000 people died in the entire Iraq war. Pol pot's economic failures did 2.5 million people over 5 years.

Soeharto killed 3 million people in 1965-1966 alone, just by mass executions alone which involve horrible decapitations for males and vertical cutting from the bottom of the Vagina upwards unto the belly for the women. This is after the men are forced to march on the streets naked with their balls being cut off and/or their bodies stabbed with bayonets, while the women have their nipples cut off then marched on the road until they are executed. The bodies all fall into either the mass graves or the rivers, with 7 generations of the children of the remaining leftists being legally stigmatized to never be able to serve nor work within the government institutions. This means we have more or less 150 people killed per day, just counting the killings.

Soeharto literally sold off the Indonesian resources by selling Indonesia's powerful military assets such as the Nuclear-capable Ilyushin and Tupolev bombers to Pakistan for them to be scrapped as well as many other assets from the Airforce and the Navy. Soeharto immediately legalized foreign investment in Indonesia, and started the framework which commodified education and for further privatization of the Indonesian state. In Suharto's time, all state workers are obliged to vote for Suharto's party (Golkar), religious Muslim women were prohibited to wear the Hijab for a time, the Chinese minority were not allowed to practice any of their traditions, non-heterogenous genders from tribals were eradicated systematically, and the Javanese ethnicity were encouraged to spread everywhere without giving similar incentives to other ethnicities. In practice, all Foreign investment goes only to Suharto's family and the people who know him, economic competition were swiftly dealt with through simply not giving permits for political reasons, all parts of society are watched through the Urban PETRUS and the rural Babinsa.

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Council Communism Appreciation Thread

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Im socialist who is the son of Cuban exiles in Miami. Am I a hypocrite for not moving back to Cuba? Im not a Marxist Leninist of course (or a Marxist in general), but it still feels like shit.

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Alternative hypothesis

https://youtu.be/SrmTPs9iLWA

This is what /pol/tards actually belive

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/ego/ general

Give me one reason, ONE why this man is wrong
>protip you cant

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Max Stirner Explained: Part 2 (politics)

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Is John McDonnell our guy?

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HAPPY VALENTINES DAY LADS

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This but unironically.

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Antifa

Fuck Fascism and crush it before it rises

What do you think of Antifa?

Do you support your local Antifa group?

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So what keeps this from being raided?

What is stopping /pol/ from coming here?

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France's high school/college reforms

Today a dozen "jeunes communistes" militants entered the amphitheater where I was having a chemistry lesson and made a speech about macron's reforms in the education area. They got me thinking about how honest militant effort is wasted on fights defending things that were already far from ideal, and that are already lost anyways.

They talked about how the current French government is trying to basically kill education as we knew it in France (free college almost without selection, multiple repetitions allowed, honest budgets, one globally known diploma for all: the "baccalauréat" and so on) and morph it into an elitist, mercantile system (as if it was a surprise, it's not like there have been market studies on education and how it could profit investors these last years):

-Copying the US Major/Minor system in high-school (idk how it's gonna change anything about education)
-Allow for a selection based on which high-school you went to for instance (rich kids first, right?)
-10 vows for superior education and if too many people ask for the same field, some get rejected and are imposed a field chosen by "companies"
(education is there for one sole reason, working for porky, of course)
-budget cuts
-if you miss a year, you can get kicked out of college
...

Where's the problem?

With or without those reforms the system is already fucked up, they already managed to make semi-private, elitist institutions, where they basically do the same stuff as we do, with competition added and a diploma that's worth more than ours, the "classes préparatoires", there are even private schools renting billboard in front of our college propaganding for the stuff they sell for 20K a year and how much their students thrive in the "business world", and in general, they got students to belive that what's important is their future career and not learning useful stuff, ...

And when we fight to keep those little privileges, they manage to scuff some others away so whatever happens, we lose at the end.

While organizations like the one I quote and lots of others, instead of protesting and stuff, could unite people and raise resources to build what they say they strive for (worker's owned companies for instance) to build an alternative.

Just a few thoughts, and so, what do you think?

Is it worth fighting for a rotten loaf of bread or is it better to leave the whole thing show it's stupidity by itself?

Do you know about initiatives where comrades act instead of fighting or protesting?

Are there frenchy colleagues 'round there?

TL:DR?

Out of topic?
Open

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critiques of this man

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Leftymeme thread

Since /leftypol/ on 8chan has fallen we are in need of new memes to fight back so we shall post them here in the bunker where we are save! I will start with a few I have made so far. Go ahead and share some of yours comrade! We are all brothers here after all!

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National Bolshevism is it...
Cancer or Not Cancer?

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LEFTYPOL IS DOWN
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO WITH MY LIFE
WHAT IS LIFE
WHO AM I
WHAT IS ME

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Wtf I love Belarus now

No, really. I didn't even know that they kept so many aspects of the old Soviet system, its almost like the events of 1989 and 1991 were partially reversed - or at least brought to a halt - in Belarus. Does anyone have any in-depth knowledge of the political situation in Belarus? Just how socialist and how bourgeois it is? I mean, I guess it could be said that its the most socialist country in Europe these days?

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MERRY CHRISTMAS BUNKERCHAN!

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P U R E
I D E O L O G Y

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I get the strange feeling that there will be a large influx of people

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May 9th, the day that Nazism surrendered to the mighty soviets.

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Don't mind me checking something

I wonder if we share common wordfilters with 8chan's /leftypol/
Socially conservative
Race mixing
Strasser
Rojava
IQ
Chimpout

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Left book group

Hey wonderful leftists, join this left book group, it’s lit
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1928440074071780

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Antifa Storm Gov’t Building, Burn American Flag, Hoist Antifa Flag

Finally the American anitfas aren't being absolutely retarded and starting to understand the true enemy
https://newspunch.com/antifa-american-flag/

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RED REVOLUTION

All the powers to the soviet!

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Lenin

100 years ago in Russia there were the REVOLUTION.I want it is a big party for these event

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I want more Alunya lewds AAAAaaaaaAAh

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I hate god? Why did he create CRAP italism??

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revolt

wanna revot in the USA

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Hello guys and gals, polack here. I left /pol/ due to the massive circle jerk and autism running amuck in 8ch, and I'm interested in reading some leftist literature. I tried to find Capital by Karl Marx in a local bookstore by the mall, but I failed. The closest thing to a leftist book that I could find was an autobiography by Bernie Sanders. The name of the book was something about Revolution. Can you guys recommend me some leftist literature?

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So just made this

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Fuck liberals

Liberals are a cancerous bunch

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this is a good board.
How come no one uses it?

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Nederdraad

Nederdraad op bunkerchan. Zal tijd worden.

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CORBYN VICTORY THREAD

CORBYN VICTORY THREAD. POST RARE Corbynskis!

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Well looks like this is the regular leftypol now

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WHen do we get to start killing all the crypto facists?

Its pretty obvious anyone who voted trump is a racist woman hater, lets just get them out of the gene pool already. Probably just more inbred babies from rednecks anyways, am i right?

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THEYRE COMMULIST THEIR BOLSHEVIKS

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what do ultra tankies think of glorious pol pot?

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Pouring one out for my homies at /leftyweebpol/

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How do we deal with the kek problem?

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>ITT: Post things that make you go Hmmmmmm

hmmmmmm

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Muke Vs ML's

I posted a similar thing on leftypol ( 8cn version). Do you think xexizy was right to say the 'USSR wasn't socialist''

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Some idiot called Jason Kenney "BTFOs" Venezuela

Please, spam this (https://youtu.be/ZNkHdUhbI9U) video with facts about Venezuela to teach this retarded neo-feudal motherfucker a lesson.

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Fellas, since most of the leftist music channels barely post any romanian music i was thinking about making one of those sever hours long music compilations
Im romanian myself so it should be easy, and there are tons of obscure songs that could be included
Should i start working on it?

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[[thread]]

let's make bunkerchan great for the first time!

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Call out those nazis! loud and proud

Dont let them get you down, we are winning!

All the nazis on pol wont be caught dead in the streets with swastikas, be very vocal on all other social media about how fucking bad nazi's are.

Its important to not let crypto nazi symbolism slide either, we all know the various nord symbols, flags, MAGA hats, pepes and so on are all the same. Call them out as the nazis they are.

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Is there any evidence that kulaks actually hoarded grain?

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Is leftypol down?

I mean the real one.

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Taylor Amarel - Kushner Whistleblower?

There was a whistleblower who posted on 4/8ch and also on deepweb ellipsis.
Reading recent stories about Kusher, it seams like his disclosures match to what has recently been reported.
Do you have any ideas? I think it is worth sleuthing through old posts and even figure out if Taylor Scott Amarel is actually alive…

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mause hover

please board owner make a mouse hover to see how many time ago a comment was published, as many of us are not interested in doing the math, and also i don't know what hour is the watch on (im not from america).

to locate in time is one of the most important aspects on a IB, and without that this place will never have more people.

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Shit guys, some just now told me ill grow out of communism. Damm....

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/LEFTYPOL/ ON 8CH IS BACK ON
I TRIED LOGGING IN TO MY MOD ACCOUNT BUT THE SYSTEM WON'T LET ME
WE NEED A NIGHT WATCHMAN TO SAVE THE BOARD FROM GETTING FLOOD

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Does this place even have any mods?

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What does leftypol think of Chomsky?

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That G20 summit tho... it was one hell of a party

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WW3 Discussion Thread

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/09/asea-s09.html
>Washington has begun raising the specter of human rights accusations against Duterte’s murderous anti-drug crusade as a means of pressuring Manila into line with the agenda of the “pivot to Asia.” Duterte responded with an angry tirade during a press conference before the ASEAN summit, mouthing nationalist denunciations of US crimes as a means of justifying his own criminal policies. The White House announced it was calling off Obama’s planned meeting with Duterte during the summit.

>On Wednesday, Duterte expressed his “regrets” over having offended Obama. Manila announced on the same day it had evidence that China was engaged in island construction on the disputed Scarborough Shoal, in violation of the PCA ruling. It released photographs to the press that it claimed documented this construction activity.

>Duterte’s entourage supplied the Wall Street Journal with a copy of the speech he planned to deliver during the East Asia Summit.

>Duterte instead delivered an “impromptu speech.” In the closed-door session, Duterte showed the delegates, including Obama, photographs of carnage from the 1899–1902 Philippine-American War and stated “This is my ancestor they killed. Why now [the Americans] are talking about human rights?”

>tfw filipinos are going to start ww3

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Thank fuck, this format looks better. Thank you based mods.
Also ring me up if you need a banner
from Bat'ko

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like a phoenix, or a phoenix person, we rise from the ashes

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Hello

I am first to post here in a long time.

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Maoist-Hoxhaism here and let me tell you that these /Pol/acks are spooky

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Congrats on hitting 100 subs on YouTube, Bunkerchan!

Love from GETchan. <333

https://youtu.be/SWtx_64u6dM

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Corporatism in our Schools

https://www.change.org/p/hamilton-southeastern-schools-end-the-herffopoly-at-fishers-high-school?recruiter=556159250&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition This is a petition against a school prohibiting a student from walking at graduation, because he didn't want to pay to rent over-priced clothing. This is a sad example of corporatism and input/support is welcome.

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Just found out Bunkerchan isn't blocked by my school.

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>Pray to a chaos god to get trump elected
>Chaos happens and nothing goes your way
>"Maybe the French elections will be in our favor!"
>Raid /leftypol/ because those cucks are getting in the way of your freezepeach
>It doesn't work, and get beaten by a dickless centrist
>"OH MY GOD I'M SO MAD RIGHT NOW I WILL RAID A SMALL /leftypol/ MIGRATION BOARD, THEN I WON'T BE SO MAD"

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Look - I have to process this information somehow and get the correct understanding. I think the best way to do it is to get a thread going over here away from the constant chatter of 8chan. This is a valuable resource we should all be using.

What I want to discuss is the developing current within the 'Soviet Cybernetics' and 'Empirical Marxism' threads. That current is the embrace of the science of cybernetics in order to plan a communist economy and manifest it into existence.

The author of the Soviet Cybernetics thread (wildcat flag) describes a new emerging metaphysics beyond Marx and even beyond Kropotkin, which he terms Cyber Syndicalism.

>The point of it is that the entire economy is consciously structured in such a way as to operate in a manner able to be democratically fine-tuned through syndicates modifying a master program's objective function and otherwise self-managing through a closed feedback loop. Moreover, it aims to establish this through the use of the program within workers' cooperatives backing unions which they finance in order to spread the system. In other words, it bases its praxis around a control system realized in its starting institutions and grown from there.

I'd like to open up a deeper discussion on the practicalities, laws, obstacles, in the way or in favor of such a system coming about. I would also like to discuss the state of Unions, the Co-Op model of business, this new metaphysics, and to ultimately organize the people who are in favor of enacting this system to get this thing rolling and create a movement in the world.

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I made this flyer to spread the message of /leftypol/. Thoughts?

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Vladimir Jaffe. Why does this guy make me rage so much?

He was raised in the revisionist period USSR.

When people point this out he deflects.

He should know liberals aren't socialists but insists anyway

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Mandatory qts thread

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Why again was national socialism bad?

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Guns

What is your stance on personal guns?

Do you own any?

Would you join a leftist militia?

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Hi leftypol, what do you think of my nonfiction collection? Are there other similar works you would recommend?

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fuuug white peeple