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Comrade 09/02/2018 (Sun) 16:56:18 [Preview] No. 7108 [Reply]
https://discord.gg/sG9rSGC

some alt right shitheads server

Go mess it up comrades
No discord shilling

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debating cuCKs Comrade 06/30/2018 (Sat) 16:50:16 [Preview] No. 6888 [Reply]
How do i deal with the human nature argument. I debate politics with alot people (mostly on the internet) and most of their arguments are shit but this one thing the human nature argument i dont understand how to repell which is the Communism/Socialism goes against human nature and it is really annoying so please help me how i am going to repell it.
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>>7023
So not only full of bullshit but nothing but insults when your nonsense is challenged. Be quiet, wrecker.
>>7027
Off topic. What is your hot take on human nature and communism?
>>7031
Kropotkin pointed out the innate human tendency towards cooperation. If "human nature" were as the Hobbesian right claim, civilization would not exist; humanity would have focused on an endless cycle of rape and murder instead. That being the case, it's inevitable that we're going to see an economic system that is based on such at some point.
>>7032
We wouldn't need a government if we were good m8
>>7099
The post says that people tend to co-operate not that they are good. Go have a pointless argument elsewhere.

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Communist memes irl Comrade 07/30/2018 (Mon) 12:42:45 [Preview] No. 6948 [Reply]
The Communist Party of Australia launching there housing campaign.
Meme irl
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>>7016
Hey, that bike's got a Campagnolo groupset on it. Nice.

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Strike This cunts Comrade 08/24/2018 (Fri) 14:18:58 [Preview] No. 7065 [Reply]
PEPE SAYS HIII
:3

Anarchy Comrade 08/16/2018 (Thu) 23:53:24 [Preview] No. 7009 [Reply]
Can you explain to me what anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism are based on?
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anarchism, communism, and syndicalism

your welcome

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Comrade 08/24/2018 (Fri) 20:32:59 [Preview] No. 7068 [Reply]
DEATH TO ANARCHISM

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catgirls? Comrade 08/23/2018 (Thu) 08:12:17 [Preview] No. 7058 [Reply]
Hmmm Ronida is most like me and one of my best internet friends is most like Alunya wwwwwww POST CUTENESS! ^^

What's your favorite Hoxha title? Comrade 08/17/2018 (Fri) 17:25:23 [Preview] No. 7022 [Reply]
The Anglo-American Threat to Albania: Memoirs of the National Liberation War (1982)

Report to the 4th Congress of the Party of Labour of Albania (1961)

Reflections on China. Extracts from the Political Diary. Vol I (1962-1972)

Reflections on China. Extracts from the Political Diary. Vol 2 (1973-1977)

Reflections on the Middle East. Extracts from the Political Diary 1958-1983 (1984)

Yugoslav "Self-Administrarion" - A Capitalist Theory and Practice (Against E. Kardelj's anti-socialist views expressed in the book «Directions of the Development of the Political System of Socialist Administration») (1978)

Two Friendly Peoples. Excerpts from the Political Diary and other documents on Albaninan-Greek relations 1941-1984 (1985)

Enver Hoxha Speaks. Selected speeches and works 1944-1979

Enver Hoxha: Selected Works. Volume I: November 1941 - October 1948

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hello Comrade 04/15/2018 (Sun) 18:23:15 [Preview] No. 6749 [Reply]
recently someone told me that 'communism doesnt work because there is no competition and competition innovates' whats an easy way to debunk this if they bring it up again??

btw happy ww3
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>>6786
>capitalism encourages innovation

It doesn't. Innovation nearly never comes from the private sector. It comes from researchers and scientists who love their job.
>>6749
Cuba's medical innovations like and HIV and lung cancer vaccines. USSR beating the US to space.

And many of the 'innovations' of capitalism don't make anything better. Look at planned obsolescence of consumer electronics or price-fixing in oligopolistic industries like airlines or telecom.
>>6749
but like practicing some of these gimme questions is super important for cadre-building. looks bad if you don't have a good answer to the 50 most commonly asked questions.
This is the biggest oxymoron from competitivist. In industry or any workforce that is large enough, teams are formed to complete task effectively and efficiently. A cohesive team is a good team. A teams goal is rarely to be competitive. Rather their objective is just that. An objective to be completed. The objective may be for competitive gain for the capitalist but for the team members it is just a stupid task with a cunty deadline attached. In capitalism we can see this as team A from company A, and team B from company B. (to spice this up we can also say A is from country A and B is from country B). Both A and B are working on the same thing, both have their trade secrets which give them an advantage, and both are working to subvert the other. This is a huge waste of time, resources, and labour. And most importantly the competitivist goal is still to generate surplus value for the capitalist. which could be argued as the brainlet as
>muh inovates.
but dont sell yourself short comrade there is moar muh inovates down the road...

Now compare this to the opposite example of A and B collaborating together. They both share ideas freely. They work in coalition. They are no longer scheming about the other. They are AB or BA. Now knowing that your friend may be asking for irl examples. Public hospitals are a good example. They are efficient and effective. Wards are triaged into specialised teams that work cooperatively. The open source of information and communication is critical. Now imagine a person has arrived at Hospital A and has passed away. it is ascertained that they are an organ donor. Team A retrieves sed organs. One kidney is put in the icebox and transported to hospital B where team B gives that kidney to the kidney recipient. 1 organ = 1 life if everything grafts aohkay.

Now if we injected the second scenario back into the first scenario we get a macabre outcome. Hospital A (kekistan shares boarder with bunkistan) gets the kidney. Hospital B (bunkistan shares boarder with kekistan) calls HosA and asks if they have any kidneys. HosA says "nah mate". hangs up phone. HosA holds onto the kidney just in case they can get a competitive edge over those gibs at HosB. Kidney goes passed use by date. Time. Resource. Labour. Life/Lives.
B pays the price ot kidney to A. Sends kidney packed in HosA(tm) package to B. Life and resources saved.

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