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Comrade 11/12/2016 (Sat) 07:09:48 Id: 2049fc [Preview] No. 2338
Is he really a fascist?
no
More like "Fascistic".

He isn't coherent enough to stick with an ideology.
Trump is more like nazbol
nope
>Trump is more like nazbol

hell yeah
Reactionary yes fash no
NAZBOL
>>2338
More like a proto-fascist, and even then you still have to blame Obama/Bush for building to the apparatus that allows for it
>>2338
A fascist, nazi, or any type of authoritarian, has full control over his party.

How much control does Trump have over the Republican Party?

Even if he is a fascist, he doesn't know how to fascism.
>>2624
>A fascist, nazi, or any type of authoritarian, has full control over his party.
You don't believe that mussolini or hitler had full control over their parties, do you?
>>2625
>What is Nacht der langen Messer?

Golden Dawn for example, as a true nazi party, did exactly that when they entered the parliament. Whoever is dangerous for the way we do things now is to be purged.

I don't see Trump purging anybody...

Now... IF and WHEN he starts purging the party...
>>2626
To be clear, the reason I called him a proto-fascist and not a true fascist is because he clearly has demonstrated the desire to purge members from his party (think of his subtle or not-so-subtle threats to Cruz, Ryan, etc.), but has no practical, reliable ways of doing so. But if he ever gained the political capital to do so, those people and many more would be gone in a heartbeat.
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He's a capitalist selling out the national territory and it's people to corporate control outright and formally.

The same as actual fascism.
>>2628
Thatcher was fascist then?

... hmmm....
>>2338
He's an arbiter.
>is every single right-winger with vaguely authoritarian tendencies literally Hitler/proto-Hitler/quasi-Hitler?
>>2628
If you use so vague definition of fascism there is no need for term "capitalism".
Fascism starts when party start to purge workers
You get fascism only when you get the following
>Anti-individualism, strong nationalism, totalitarian statism
>Anti-democratic thought and one party dictatorship, might be with some personality cult to boot
>Militarism and imperialist expansionism, goal is creating the living space for the nation(Spazio Vitale, Lebensraum)
>"Third way": rejection of liberal capitalism in favour of class collaborationist mixed economy with heavy state interference
Trump hardly fulfills those criteria which means we can safely reject the claim that he's a fascist.
>>2701
Quality post
>>2701
>Anti-individualism, strong nationalism, totalitarian statism

first off implying trump hasn't been promoting strong nationalism, second the us already is under totalitarian statism

>Anti-democratic thought and one party dictatorship, might be with some personality cult to boot

To an extent you could argue the way he has lashed out at the other branches of government, but that is a stretch

>Militarism and imperialist expansionism, goal is creating the living space for the nation(Spazio Vitale, Lebensraum

the us military engages in this constantly

>>"Third way": rejection of liberal capitalism in favour of class collaborationist mixed economy with heavy state interference

he campaigned on an individualist version of this
>>2704
>second the us already is under totalitarian statism
You have no idea what tatalitarian regime is, do you?

Are in exile or labor camp? Are you papers and political beliefs cheched all the time?
Are you banned from listening to X kind of music?

no? No tatalitarian regime.

On everything else you are correct.
>>2704
That's the thing, most were already a given in the US long before Trump.
Trump only got closer in the nationalism part, but so often leftist groups are nationalistic (outside the US it's a way to stand against imperialism)
And that last thing is cancelled out by Trump's tax cuts.

Trump is coporatist imperialist. He isn't even pushing the US in that direction becuase it's already there.
>>2609
historical n e c e s s i t y
Fascism in Rooseveltian sense of "when the private industry comes in and directs the government" is something we have had in America for the last 40 years.
Fascism has it's basis in Ancient Rome and Traditionalism, and the Occult side of the Pagan in particular. Evola, for instance, goes on and on about how everyone should run their own business and every nazi is about Survival of the Fittest and all of that.
Occultism is at the heart of every fascist order, and the Cult of Kek is no exception. Dugin is all about that shit too, today.

Occultism is hyperindividualist. And so is fascism-- everyone strong enough to stand and claim their individual and manifest destiny can, and of course we measure their strength by MONEY and the influence it buys.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/world/europe/bannon-vatican-julius-evola-fascism.html

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